Re: University of Kentucky Basketball
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Originally Posted by
WilyMoROCKS
The fellas never quit. Made some dumb mistakes... just like they have all year... but they didn't quit.
Yeah ..they did ! Plus playing on Monday probably didnt increase their chances not that they would have won but ya never know.
Re: University of Kentucky Basketball
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Originally Posted by
rocko
Two big plays sorta sums up the team this season.
Stevenson/Porter ( I think it was Porter) not on same page causing turnover stopping rally.
Porter fouling a jumpshot with 2 seconds on shotclock.
The Gators loss against Penn State last night was also a microcosm of their entire season. No rebounding, lack of perimeter defense and the inability to close out a close game. Tough year for both programs but we will rebuild and learn, I am sure.
Re: University of Kentucky Basketball
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Originally Posted by
TheBigLebowski
I agree to some extent but the fact remains that Kentucky is Kentucky. There will always be talented coaches who would love the job, regardless of the circumstances.
Some will be interested sure, but not some of the names you see thrown around. I've heard Pitino this week, keep dreaming. Calapari.....he isn't leaving Memphis. If Billy goes, it will be the second coach in a row that was run out of town by delusional alumni and "fans", coaches notice.
Re: University of Kentucky Basketball
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Originally Posted by
TheBigLebowski
He sure does need some PR training. I have seen him blow off sideline reporters at halftimes and give some very half-hearted post-game handshakes to other coaches.
It's not just the national media and other coaches. Two incidents that I believe are very telling of this situation.
In a postgame interview with Tom Leach, Kentucky's play by play announcer, Gillispie accused Leach of trying to get him to throw his players under the bus. To my knowledge there was nothing baiting about the question, it was a simple question about the players performance. Then Gillispie proceeded to do exactly that by mentioning Stevenson and Harrellson.
The second incident involved Rob Bromley, host of the Billy Gillispie television show. Bromley asked another question to Gillispie and Gillispie stated that he felt no reason to answer it, since Bromley had already formed his opinion. Bromley tried to smooth things over during the commercial break but Gillispie wouldn't budge.
I honestly believe Gillispie is in over his head right now. He hasn't exactly made friends in Lexington or in the national media and I think the pressure has taken a toll. Outside of mentioning Stevenson and Harrellson, the number one thing I remember after the loss to Gardner Webb was how Gillispie told the media not to blame the kids, but to put the loss on him.
Jimmy Dykes made some really good points tonight, and one of them had to do with Bill Keightley's influence last year. Gillispie and Keightley became very close before Keightley passed away and Dykes said Keightley may have been a factor in Gillispie making it through the Kentucky waters if he had been alive. Some things we will never know.
Re: University of Kentucky Basketball
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Originally Posted by
WilyMoROCKS
The fellas never quit. Made some dumb mistakes... just like they have all year... but they didn't quit.
If they had played 5 minutes in the first half as hard as they played the last 5 minutes of the game... But twas not to be. I wish I could say I am sad it is over...
Re: University of Kentucky Basketball
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Originally Posted by
Reds4Life
Some will be interested sure, but not some of the names you see thrown around. I've heard Pitino this week, keep dreaming. Calapari.....he isn't leaving Memphis. If Billy goes, it will be the second coach in a row that was run out of town by delusional alumni and "fans", coaches notice.
Any fan wanting Pitino is the equivalent of pulling a gallon of milk out of the refrigerator and seeing the expiration date is expired. Then instead of throwing it away, they put it back in and say "If I open this back up in a couple of days, maybe it will get better."
Actually, that may fit better for Donovan too.
Calipari is the one I would absolutely love to have. That being said, he has no reason to leave Memphis. He is in a city that is crazy about Memphis Tigers basketball, that shares an arena with an NBA team, and has a recruiting class that could possibly match up with the Thad/Fab Five.
If Gillispie goes, and it is looking that way, here are the names to expect to hear with the first two being the most likely(the names have for sure been linked in discussion, the commentary is mine):
Billy Donovan: I am more optimistic this time around, but also leary. Lebowski, no offense, but I really think Donovan misses Anthony Grant.
Travis Ford: would take it if Donovan didn't. IMO not ready, but the Kentucky ties will get him the job if he wants it.
Jamie Dixon: outside of Calipari, my pick. That being said, it would be a return to "Tubbyball".
Sean Miller: see Travis Ford minus the UK credentials.
Tom Izzo: No chance.
Rick Barnes: Will likely come out and turn down a contract right after Kentucky fires Gillispie even though no offer was made. Too much money to bring to Lexington and the track record in the tourney really isn't impressive.
Thad Matta: I'm not touching this with a ten foot pole.
Re: University of Kentucky Basketball
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Originally Posted by
TheBigLebowski
The Gators loss against Penn State last night was also a microcosm of their entire season. No rebounding, lack of perimeter defense and the inability to close out a close game. Tough year for both programs but we will rebuild and learn, I am sure.
I should mention trying to sound as unbiased as I can, even if the coaching changes don't take place, I think Florida will likely arrive again before Kentucky. I like what Donovan has going on with Boynton coming in and if somebody could take on a leadership role the Gators could be back in the NCAA next year.
Re: University of Kentucky Basketball
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Originally Posted by
WVRed
Any fan wanting Pitino is the equivalent of pulling a gallon of milk out of the refrigerator and seeing the expiration date is expired. Then instead of throwing it away, they put it back in and say "If I open this back up in a couple of days, maybe it will get better."
Actually, that may fit better for Donovan too.
Calipari is the one I would absolutely love to have. That being said, he has no reason to leave Memphis. He is in a city that is crazy about Memphis Tigers basketball, that shares an arena with an NBA team, and has a recruiting class that could possibly match up with the Thad/Fab Five.
If Gillispie goes, and it is looking that way, here are the names to expect to hear with the first two being the most likely(the names have for sure been linked in discussion, the commentary is mine):
Billy Donovan: I am more optimistic this time around, but also leary. Lebowski, no offense, but I really think Donovan misses Anthony Grant.
Travis Ford: would take it if Donovan didn't. IMO not ready, but the Kentucky ties will get him the job if he wants it.
Jamie Dixon: outside of Calipari, my pick. That being said, it would be a return to "Tubbyball".
Sean Miller: see Travis Ford minus the UK credentials.
Tom Izzo: No chance.
Rick Barnes: Will likely come out and turn down a contract right after Kentucky fires Gillispie even though no offer was made. Too much money to bring to Lexington and the track record in the tourney really isn't impressive.
Thad Matta: I'm not touching this with a ten foot pole.
Don't see Dixon being interested in UK. He is a west coaster, and there are rumblings that he would be interested in the Arizona job. If he takes that job then Sean Miller is headed to Pitt, he's an alumni and former player there.
Agree on Calapari, he's got a sweet deal in Memphis. They pay him a truckload of cash, not much pressure, and can get an NCAA bid at will with CUSA being so weak. He's the king down there, and they bow at his feet.
For what it's worth, I don't get the Travis Ford thing. I agree, he isn't ready for a big time job, and has a lot to prove. Never understood why so many UK fans wanted him so badly.
Re: University of Kentucky Basketball
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Originally Posted by
Reds4Life
Agree on Calapari, he's got a sweet deal in Memphis. They pay him a truckload of cash, not much pressure, and can get an NCAA bid at will with CUSA being so weak. He's the king down there, and they bow at his feet.
If Calipari could handle the pressure I honestly believe he could turn Kentucky into Memphis in the SEC. That is how weak the SEC is right now.
I did think it was funny though he made the comment that he needed to win 30 games at Memphis or people would put For Sale signs on his lawn.
Re: University of Kentucky Basketball
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Originally Posted by
WVRed
If Calipari could handle the pressure I honestly believe he could turn Kentucky into Memphis in the SEC. That is how weak the SEC is right now. I did think it was funny though he made the comment that he needed to win 30 games at Memphis or people would put For Sale signs on his lawn.
The SEC won't be down long. There are some very good coaches in this league now. Especially if UGa makes a good hire. Assuming Grant goes to Bama.
Re: University of Kentucky Basketball
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Originally Posted by
WVRed
The only thing the Donovan speculation is going on from is on True Blue Kentucky and Marc Maggard. Of course, MM was also the one who said Patterson and Meeks would be going pro, only to have Patterson come out a couple days later to announce he was returning. His sources have been wrong before.
...and wasn't Maggard saying less than a week ago, in no uncertain terms, that BG would be back next year?
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^ Yup, Maggard routinely covers all his bases on scenarios like this, he guaranteed Patterson would be gone and then guaranteed he would be back, same thing with Meeks, and now, as I predicted earlier in the thread he would, he's hedged his bet with Gillispie. I'm more an insider than him and don't charge people money for info. Hah.
Reds4Life, again, UK didn't "run Tubby off", and we're not doing it to Gillispie. It's off-the-court stuff that won't come to light, because he's likely taking a $1million out clause and this stuff won't come to light.
WVRed, there are plenty of reasons for Calipari to leave Memphis. I'm not saying that that's who UK will get, but Memphis isn't holding Cal there. Of the people on your list, Donovan and Ford are the only two on the short list, and Ford is a longshot. Barnes was barely even mentioned last time out, and then the jackass came out and "removed" his name from consideration, making UK look like they were jilted by a guy they weren't considering. Miller and Dixon are nice coaches, but not on the list that I know of. Matta has some interest in moving to a place where basketball is more prestigious, but I don't believe UK is interested much in him.
It'll be an interesting few days. As soon as this weekend, there may be some movement.
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This was discussed over at True Blue Kentucky and that is the source of my info...
There is something to consider about Donovan, and it is this: No coach in the history of college basketball has won NCAA titles with two different schools. Could he be the first? Certainly, but history is not on his side.
Only 12 coaches in history have won multiple titles, and all of them did it at the same school...
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_coach..._championships
Another interesting note is that there are only two active coaches who have won NCAA titles that are not still coaching at the school they won the titles with. Guessing them shouldn't be that hard. ;)
Re: University of Kentucky Basketball
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Javy Pornstache
^ Yup, Maggard routinely covers all his bases on scenarios like this, he guaranteed Patterson would be gone and then guaranteed he would be back, same thing with Meeks, and now, as I predicted earlier in the thread he would, he's hedged his bet with Gillispie. I'm more an insider than him and don't charge people money for info. Hah.
Reds4Life, again, UK didn't "run Tubby off", and we're not doing it to Gillispie. It's off-the-court stuff that won't come to light, because he's likely taking a $1million out clause and this stuff won't come to light.
WVRed, there are plenty of reasons for Calipari to leave Memphis. I'm not saying that that's who UK will get, but Memphis isn't holding Cal there. Of the people on your list, Donovan and Ford are the only two on the short list, and Ford is a longshot. Barnes was barely even mentioned last time out, and then the jackass came out and "removed" his name from consideration, making UK look like they were jilted by a guy they weren't considering. Miller and Dixon are nice coaches, but not on the list that I know of. Matta has some interest in moving to a place where basketball is more prestigious, but I don't believe UK is interested much in him.
It'll be an interesting few days. As soon as this weekend, there may be some movement.
The coaches I listed were the same ones listed by Maggard.
From the looks of things, the first pin will drop come Friday.
Re: University of Kentucky Basketball
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Originally Posted by
dabvu2498
The SEC won't be down long. There are some very good coaches in this league now. Especially if UGa makes a good hire. Assuming Grant goes to Bama.
Grant left Bama tonight and there has been no report of acceptance. Take it as you may, but it will only fuel the speculation.