Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
I just read this and had to look it up to make sure it was true:
The Reds are paying Ken Griffey Jr. more this season than all but five players on the Opening Day roster.
Sell the team.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
#maketheteamgoodBob. Idc how you do it. Low payroll. High payroll. All I ask is that your staff make competent baseball decisions that lead to a winner.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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LeatherPants
Hey if they want to open their books to show they were in the red by $40 million, they are free to do so. Until they do, I call BS.
Once again, for those in the back, losing revenue doesn't mean you lost money, it just means you probably didn't make as much money as you were going to.
It wouldn't mean a thing. Baseball is a cash cow to be milked. There's so many accounting tricks used to make it look like a loser that even if you had the actual books in front of you, you'd need at least a CPA to be able to distinguish the truth from them.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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RedTeamGo!
Yep, my company makes private companies do it all the time. “You want to ship your crap, open your books so we can give you more credit”
If these teams want to build stadiums on taxpayer dime it should be a requirement that all of their finances are public.
Yep, I would imagine this is quite common if someone wants credit extended to them.
In order for someone to open up their books there has to be a reason to do so. And no business is going to willingly open up their books because someone wants them to. It just doesn't make sense to me to demand it.
Anyone working for a private company, go ask your boss(es) to open up the books and see what happens.
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bucksfan2
Yep, I would imagine this is quite common if someone wants credit extended to them.
In order for someone to open up their books there has to be a reason to do so. And no business is going to willingly open up their books because someone wants them to. It just doesn't make sense to me to demand it.
Anyone working for a private company, go ask your boss(es) to open up the books and see what happens.
Nobody thinks they'll actually open their books. But we reserve the right to ***** about it.
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LeatherPants
Nobody thinks they'll actually open their books. But we reserve the right to ***** about it.
I get it, but if I owned the Reds I sure as heck wouldn't open up the books because some fans demanded it of me. Same thing with a business, the books are not being opened unless I have to.
I think Castellini is a bad owner, and I think he (or his silent partners) are spooked by 2020 and 2021. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they did actually lose $2M during the pandemic.
I think the Reds are in the situation they are in because of bad contracts, not necessarily pandemic losses.
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bucksfan2
I get it, but if I owned the Reds I sure as heck wouldn't open up the books because some fans demanded it of me. Same thing with a business, the books are not being opened unless I have to.
I think Castellini is a bad owner, and I think he (or his silent partners) are spooked by 2020 and 2021. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they did actually lose $2M during the pandemic.
I think the Reds are in the situation they are in because of bad contracts, not necessarily pandemic losses.
The Reds are in the situation they are in because they are cheap and dumb, which is a bad combination.
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bucksfan2
It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they did actually lose $2M during the pandemic.
With the amount of money given to both MLB clubs in general (via TV, radio, and other rights) and the Reds in particular (via revenue sharing), it would shock me if Red owners didn't skim tens of millions off the top every year.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
The point here is that the Reds have limited resources ($$) to spend. They'll never be able to spend with the big boys and that's not a Castellini problem. That's an MLB problem.
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Sea Ray
The point here is that the Reds have limited resources ($$) to spend. They'll never be able to spend with the big boys and that's not a Castellini problem. That's an MLB problem.
If you are going to repeat yourself, I'll repeat myself: They can afford to spend more than they are spending.
The argument it sounds like you are making is that if they can't spend what the "big boys" spend, then they shouldn't try at all. That bull.
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LeatherPants
If you are going to repeat yourself, I'll repeat myself: They can afford to spend more than they are spending.
The argument it sounds like you are making is that if they can't spend what the "big boys" spend, then they shouldn't try at all. That bull.
It's not your money and it's not up to you to decide things like how much money they should stockpile for a rainy day or how much money they should send to their stockholders.
They pay folks lots of money to make decisions on how much they can afford. You are in no position to have an informed opinion on that
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Sea Ray
It's not your money and it's not up to you to decide things like how much money they should stockpile for a rainy day or how much money they should send to their stockholders.
They pay folks lots of money to make decisions on how much they can afford. You are in no position to have an informed opinion on that
There are way more people on a Reds message board that really hope they make a profit and don't really care if they win than you would think.
I'm glad the owners have fans too!
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LeatherPants
There are way more people on a Reds message board that really hope they make a profit and don't really care if they win than you would think.
I'm glad the owners have fans too!
Name one person on here that you genuinely think doesn’t care if the Reds win.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
Hopefully the Reds start selling Castellini jerseys so you guys can buy a couple.
Wear your Castellini jerseys with pride!!
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Old school 1983
Name one person on here that you genuinely think doesn’t care if the Reds win.
That LARKIN guy, who everyone says is an Atlanta fan.
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LeatherPants
There are way more people on a Reds message board that really hope they make a profit and don't really care if they win than you would think.
I'm glad the owners have fans too!
I don't care if they make $100million or break even. That's their business. I care that they win and I accept that they don't have the resources that half the league does. Here we are with a payroll far above teams like Pitt, Oak, TB and Clev and you're whining that they're not spending more. You want more money spent on guys like Mike Minor, Tommy Pham and Solano?
