I wish I had one for every time I read he sucked air and is a waste.Quote:
Originally Posted by PuffyPig
We could pool our money and get a sixer
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I wish I had one for every time I read he sucked air and is a waste.Quote:
Originally Posted by PuffyPig
We could pool our money and get a sixer
I don't think Bruce is on a hot streak. His play this year is very consistent. It's not feeling like his other streaks felt; he's more of a cog than putting the team on his back. I suspect we're on the verge of seeing a monster 2-3 week stretch out of him where we'll say "there's that hot streak we knew he had in him."
I put this in another thread but it really wasn't an appropriate place for the discussion...
I still think it would behoove any fan to take up a competitive endeavor. It doesn't have to be a sport, but definitely something that takes time and practice to become a proficient amateur, at least. Mine is bowling. Lots of people choose golf. Anyway, it really does give you some insight into how a small injury can affect your performance, how your body changes over time, how you have to maintain a mental focus, all of that. Then realize that at the top professional level, all of that is magnified about 100x against people who are all the time looking for ways to get the best of you, never mind the pressure of playing in front of millions of people for millions of dollars. That type of performance doesn't come from rolling out of bed. And an injury to the knee, in a sport that requires balance and agility, yes, that is going to alter your mechanics in ways you can't even imagine. To suggest that someone wouldn't be affected by such things is absurd, especially at the very top professional level.
Here's another opinion on Jay Bruce.
https://calltothepen.com/2016/06/08/...bouncing-back/
Just for grins here is Bruce's game log for this year. Mostly because I like posting tables. :)
DATE OPP RESULT AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO OBP SLG OPS AVG 4/4/2016 vs PHI W 6-2 4 0 1 0 0 0 2 0 1 0.250 0.250 0.500 0.250 4/6/2016 vs PHI W 3-2 4 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.375 0.375 0.750 0.375 4/7/2016 vs PHI W 10-6 4 2 3 0 0 2 5 0 0 0.500 1.000 1.500 0.500 4/8/2016 vs PIT L 6-5 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.438 0.800 1.238 0.400 4/9/2016 vs PIT W 5-1 4 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 3 0.400 0.684 1.084 0.368 4/10/2016 vs PIT W 2-1 4 0 2 0 1 0 1 0 0 0.417 0.739 1.156 0.391 4/11/2016 @ CHC L 5-3 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0.357 0.630 0.987 0.333 4/13/2016 @ CHC L 9-2 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0.313 0.567 0.880 0.300 4/14/2016 @ CHC L 8-1 3 1 2 1 0 0 0 1 0 0.361 0.606 0.967 0.333 4/15/2016 @ STL L 14-3 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.325 0.541 0.866 0.297 4/16/2016 @ STL W 9-8 5 1 2 0 0 1 2 0 1 0.333 0.595 0.928 0.310 4/17/2016 @ STL L 4-3 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.327 0.565 0.892 0.304 4/18/2016 vs COL L 5-1 4 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 3 0.321 0.560 0.881 0.300 4/19/2016 vs COL W 4-3 4 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0.298 0.519 0.817 0.278 4/20/2016 vs COL W 6-5 4 1 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 0.311 0.569 0.880 0.293 4/21/2016 vs CHC L 16-0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0.313 0.550 0.863 0.283 4/22/2016 vs CHC L 8-1 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.313 0.540 0.853 0.286 4/23/2016 vs CHC W 13-5 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 0.324 0.523 0.847 0.277 4/24/2016 vs CHC L 9-0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0.320 0.500 0.820 0.265 4/29/2016 @ PIT L 4-1 4 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.316 0.500 0.816 0.264 4/30/2016 @ PIT L 5-1 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.313 0.480 0.793 0.253 Monthly Totals 75 9 19 3 1 4 15 5 17 0.313 0.480 0.793 0.253 5/1/2016 @ PIT W 6-5 3 0 1 1 0 0 2 1 2 0.322 0.487 0.809 0.256 5/2/2016 vs SF L 9-6 4 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0.319 0.500 0.819 0.256 5/3/2016 vs SF L 3-1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.305 0.477 0.782 0.244 5/4/2016 vs SF W 7-4 4 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 2 0.303 0.478 0.781 0.244 5/5/2016 vs MIL W 9-5 4 1 1 0 0 1 3 0 2 0.301 0.500 0.801 0.245 5/6/2016 vs MIL W 5-1 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.299 0.490 0.789 0.245 5/7/2016 vs MIL L 13-7 5 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 2 0.295 0.485 0.780 0.243 5/8/2016 vs MIL L 5-4 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0.284 0.467 0.751 0.234 5/9/2016 vs PIT W 3-2 Did not play 5/11/2016 vs PIT L 5-4 4 1 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 0.292 0.495 0.787 0.243 5/13/2016 @ PHI L 3-2 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.285 0.482 0.767 0.237 5/14/2016 @ PHI L 4-3 3 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0.291 0.479 0.770 0.239 5/15/2016 @ PHI W 9-4 3 3 3 1 0 0 0 2 0 0.318 0.500 0.818 0.258 5/16/2016 @ CLE L 15-6 4 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0.324 0.500 0.824 0.266 5/17/2016 @ CLE L 13-1 3 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.331 0.504 0.835 0.276 5/18/2016 vs CLE L 8-7 4 3 3 0 0 2 2 1 0 0.347 0.557 0.904 0.290 5/19/2016 vs CLE L 7-2 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0.338 0.541 0.879 0.281 5/20/2016 vs SEA L 8-3 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0.329 0.525 0.854 0.273 5/21/2016 vs SEA L 4-0 Did not play 5/22/2016 vs SEA L 5-4 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0.327 0.518 0.845 0.270 5/23/2016 @ LAD L 1-0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.321 0.507 0.828 0.264 5/24/2016 @ LAD L 8-2 4 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 0.319 0.507 0.826 0.264 5/25/2016 @ LAD L 3-1 4 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0.317 0.513 0.830 0.263 5/27/2016 @ MIL L 9-5 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.310 0.500 0.810 0.256 5/28/2016 @ MIL W 7-6 5 1 2 0 0 0 1 0 2 0.313 0.497 0.810 0.261 5/29/2016 @ MIL L 5-4 3 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 0.317 0.512 0.829 0.262 5/30/2016 @ COL W 11-8 5 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.314 0.509 0.823 0.260 5/31/2016 @ COL L 17-4 4 1 3 1 1 1 2 0 0 0.323 0.549 0.872 0.272 Monthly Totals 98 19 28 7 3 6 18 7 25 0.330 0.602 0.932 0.286 6/1/2016 @ COL W 7-2 4 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0.321 0.559 0.880 0.271 6/2/2016 @ COL W 11-4 5 1 2 1 1 0 2 0 1 0.323 0.571 0.894 0.275 6/3/2016 vs WSH W 7-2 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.317 0.559 0.876 0.269 6/4/2016 vs WSH W 6-3 4 2 3 0 0 1 1 0 0 0.325 0.579 0.904 0.279 6/5/2016 vs WSH L 10-9 3 2 1 0 0 1 3 2 1 0.332 0.591 0.923 0.280 6/7/2016 vs STL W 7-6 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.330 0.584 0.914 0.279 Monthly Totals 24 7 8 1 1 3 7 2 3 0.385 0.833 1.218 0.333 AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO OBP SLG OPS AVG Totals 197 35 55 11 5 13 40 14 45 0.330 0.584 0.914 0.279
Seems fairly consistent. A few cool streaks, a few warm ones too.
http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/im...630&h=420&q=75Quote:
Originally Posted by westofyou
That's a big harenaw from me.Quote:
Originally Posted by WrongVerb
Ventura for Bruce? Jesus please no. Ventura is a cancer.
I agree with the final bit. I wasn't suggesting extending him. Simply riding out the contract and letting him go via FA when the time comes. If he's still producing well (and I think he will be) then you give him a QO. At least that's how I'd handle it. But if a team blows the Reds away with an offer...that'll work too.Quote:
Originally Posted by corkedbat
He's a guy that needs to quit throwing at people intentionally. Nothing more, nothing less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon
Fantastic talent.
:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by corkedbat
Pass me what you're huffing, pal, sounds like some of the good stuff. :lol:
I Still say the Reds should be talking to the Mets. With Wright, Duda and Legares all out, they have to be in the market for reinforcements (the Kelly Johnson deal is throwing a bucket of water at a raging fire IMO) . Add that even when healthy the MI there is pretty questionable defensively. Seems like a perfect spot for both Bruce and Cozart. Bruce plays 1B until Duda is back and gives them an extra bat when he is back (if Duda comes back. A stress fracture in the back may be something that keeps being aggravated with activity). Alternatively, they could put Bruce in LF with Conforto at 1B. Either way, it would solve a huge problem for the Mets. The LH pop missing with Duda out would be restored. Cozart would be a huge upgrade to the MI defense at SS and would allow Cabrera to slide over to 3B in Wright's place. IF and when Wright comes back, the depth will serve them well. He has lots of issues and will need frequent rest.
I'd ask for Gavin Cecchini who would provide the Reds all the things in the MI that Peraza lacks. He's a SS who hits, with on Base skill and no question about sticking at SS. He's also a bit light in the power department, but has more than Peraza. This would allow Peraza to stick to 2B or possibly some OF if needed. I'd also ask for Brandon Nimmo. He's another lefty hitting OF, but unlike Waldrop and Schebler he really can play all three OF spots and seems to have some decent on base ability. He probably doesn't have as much power as either of those guys, but the overall package probably makes him a better choice as a potential RF or 4th OF. To sweeten the deal, I'd ask for a couple of arms. Robert Gsellman is a control specialist type starting pitcher who is having a fine season in AA with a 2.71 ERA and a K:BB ratio in excess of 3:1 in 66 Innings. Finally I'd ask for Marcos Molina. He's a kid with a 60 FB, a 55 Slider and 55 Control. He's recovering from TJ which makes this a buy low opportunity, but he could be a high end reliever in a couple years or a decent starter if his change-up gets better.
That deal would give the Reds the Mets number 3, 4, 8 and 12 prospects in exchange for a allowing the Mets to fill a couple of glaring needs with player performing at an All Star caliber
The 2017 Reds:
Cecchini SS
Winker RF
Votto 1B
Duvall LF
Mesoraco C (Hope)
Suarez 3B
Phillips 2B
Pitcher
Hamilton CF
The bench would include:
Nimmo 4th OF
Peraza Super Sub
Barnhart C
and a couple decent PH options that they could scrounge up. Selsky, Schebler and Waldrop would all be candidates but maybe somebody else.
The rotation would lack a number 1, but Desclafani, Bailey, Reed, Stephenson, Strailey, Finnegan and Lamb would be my main candidates.
Iglesias, Lorenzen and Cingrani along with two of those rotation guys would form a talented back of the bullpen along with guys like Moscot, Weiss, and other pen options.
In AAA Garrett, Gsellman, Stephens, Davis and Romano would all be pushing for a spot. Travieso's struggles suggest a need to repeat AA at least to start out with Mahle and Mella and maybe the Molina kid.
Yes, but he exhales Carbon Dioxide which aids plant growth. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by westofyou