Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold

I turn them on here and there but honestly I hope to god none of you are actually watching 9 innings of this garbage day in and day out.

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Originally Posted by Redsfaithful

I turn them on here and there but honestly I hope to god none of you are actually watching 9 innings of this garbage day in and day out.

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I have been watching the Hunter Greene starts from the beginning of them and watch while I am doing cardio (generally do an hour on the treadmill or elliptical every day). Aside from that, I flip around.

But FCB hasn’t watch a second and makes a lot of absolute comments that are apparently just based on looking at box scores.

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Originally Posted by Redsfaithful

I turn them on here and there but honestly I hope to god none of you are actually watching 9 innings of this garbage day in and day out.

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I watched the last three games myself, I also listened to a couple other teams games on the radio.

It's baseball season, it's what I do when I can.

I dozed off between Hunter Strickland pitches last night.

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Originally Posted by RedTeamGo!

I have been watching the Hunter Greene starts from the beginning of them and watch while I am doing cardio (generally do an hour on the treadmill or elliptical every day). Aside from that, I flip around.

But FCB hasn’t watch a second and makes a lot of absolute comments that are apparently just based on looking at box scores.

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I have tried to catch Hunter Greene so far, but man. It's just so dire watching this lineup, I dunno if I'll continue or not.

Feels like a team to just catch highlights and look at box scores, like I don't actually need to know the ins and outs of someone like Tommy Pham. 95% (optimistic) to 100% (cynical) of this roster won't be around the next time the Reds are good so it just feels especially pointless.

I've been watching the Blue Jays some though - Vladdy is going to hit 50 this year!

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Originally Posted by Redsfaithful

I turn them on here and there but honestly I hope to god none of you are actually watching 9 innings of this garbage day in and day out.

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I've watched a few innings here and there, but given the hoops I have to jump through to watch it will be few and far between going forward especially when it gets warm out. Has to be the earliest I've given up on them during any season I can remember.

Whether I watch every inning or look at the stats page, you guys claim I know nothing and I'm pure pessimism (despite the facts). What am I missing by not watching Pham? What should I be anticipating from him going forward? Ok. This team is 2-9. What are they likely to improve to?

As Redsfaithful said, the only kids worth tuning in for are Greene and Stephenson (and India when he returns). Man that's some thin gruel.

"Man, this guy clearly doesn't see that this .200 winning percentage team is actually a .350 winning percentage team. Sucka."

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Whether I watch every inning or look at the stats page, you guys claim I know nothing and I'm pure pessimism (despite the facts). What am I missing by not watching Pham? What should I be anticipating from him going forward? Ok. This team is 2-9. What are they likely to improve to?

As Redsfaithful said, the only kids worth tuning in for are Greene and Stephenson (and India when he returns). Man that's some thin gruel.

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I get your argument to a point but a week of ABs generally tells you nothing about a batter, let alone just by looking at the box scores. I think you know this too.

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo

I get your argument to a point but a week of ABs generally tells you nothing about a batter, let alone just by looking at the box scores. I think you know this too.

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If it jazzes you to see a .200 team climb to a .400 team, I'm not stopping you.

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

If it jazzes you to see a .200 team climb to a .400 team, I'm not stopping you.

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Of course you're not.

You're just stopping by to tell us we're all fools

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Originally Posted by westofyou

Of course you're not.

You're just stopping by to tell us we're all fools

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No, I'm here too. I just don't understand the excitement of tracking Pham's loud outs.

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

No, I'm here too. I just don't understand the excitement of tracking Pham's loud outs.

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Nah, you're not here. You're just being the Jester, you say what you want, deride, stir **** up. Bunch of that going on all over the board, always does when a losing streak happens too. It's a long season ahead. Might want to pace yourself

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Originally Posted by westofyou

Nah, you're not here. You're just being the Jester, you say what you want, deride, stir **** up. Bunch of that going on all over the board, always does when a losing streak happens too. It's a long season ahead. Might want to pace yourself

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So now my being here is dictated by watching this terrible product?

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Originally Posted by westofyou

Nah, you're not here. You're just being the Jester, you say what you want, deride, stir **** up. Bunch of that going on all over the board, always does when a losing streak happens too. It's a long season ahead. Might want to pace yourself

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I’d say we’re just responding in kind to the President & COO of the Reds

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

So now my being here is dictated by watching this terrible product?

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Of course not.

I'm just saying what I feel as well.

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Originally Posted by Fil3232

I’d say we’re just responding in kind to the President & COO of the Reds

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There's a better than decent chance that front office-adjacent folks post or snoop here. They should hear it.

The hardest-core fans are sickened by this. Now imagine a Joe Punchclock fan. Why would they show up?

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Originally Posted by Redsfaithful

like I don't actually need to know the ins and outs of someone like Tommy Pham.

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And that's totally fine. But, if you had been watching you would know he has been stinging the ball and having good at bats.

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Whether I watch every inning or look at the stats page, you guys claim I know nothing and I'm pure pessimism (despite the facts). What am I missing by not watching Pham? What should I be anticipating from him going forward? Ok. This team is 2-9. What are they likely to improve to?

As Redsfaithful said, the only kids worth tuning in for are Greene and Stephenson (and India when he returns). Man that's some thin gruel.

"Man, this guy clearly doesn't see that this .200 winning percentage team is actually a .350 winning percentage team. Sucka."

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Its not a matter of watching "every inning" - you specifically stated you have literally not watched ONE inning. And yet, you make absolute statements about players based off quite literally the box scores in a very small sample size. You can do whatever you want to do. I can also point out BS when I see it.

FWIW, I feel like that’s what you do all the time with prospects. Unless you’re grinding on MiLB tv.

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Originally Posted by RedTeamGo!

Its not a matter of watching "every inning" - you specifically stated you have literally not watched ONE inning. And yet, you make absolute statements about players based off quite literally the box scores in a very small sample size. You can do whatever you want to do. I can also point out BS when I see it.

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...since the Atlanta series. They've gotten completely throttled. They didn't stand a chance in any of the west coast games so far. There's nothing BS about deciding not to watch a 2-9 team with the worst stats in baseball.

I watched or listened to every inning until 1130PM last Saturday night against the Dodgers.

Then Sunday I watched until the Dodgers blew it open again. So what... 3 innings?

Maybe 2 innings last night. Once it was 2-1 I knew that was a deficit too far to overcome for this offense.

I'm skipping the rest of the Padres series. I'll tune in a bit for the Cardinals this weekend. But if they poop the bed in that series too, that'll downgrade my attention span to just checking the score in the morning. Once they are 10 or 15 back, I'll stop even checking the score.

I like baseball though and I have the MLB package free, so I have been watching other teams. "Big Inning" is a pretty cool feature of MLB. It just cycles through the good parts and/or live action around the league, and has very limited commercials. I highly recommend it.

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

...since the Atlanta series. They've gotten completely throttled. They didn't stand a chance in any of the west coast games so far. There's nothing BS about deciding not to watch a 2-9 team with the worst stats in baseball.

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I am not referring to the team. I am referring to specific players, and....you know what, I don't care. You do you.

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Originally Posted by Fil3232

FWIW, I feel like that’s what you do all the time with prospects

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Its not what I do with prospects, but whatevs

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Originally Posted by RedTeamGo!

And that's totally fine. But, if you had been watching you would know he has been stinging the ball and having good at bats.

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I doubt many of them are actually as bad as their stats would indicate currently, at least I'd hope not or they'll blow past 100 losses.

I'm not trying to make more out of this start than it is, there are 2-9 stretches even for good teams every year, obviously it's amplified happening at the start. But you add in the failson owner comments coming right after a salary dump which came right after they locked out the players which came right after the Bengals went to the Super Bowl and showed all sorts of things are actually possible if an organization tries, and it's just dire.

What fanbase wouldn't be gnashing teeth right here? It's actually funny that there's anyone at all pumping the brakes on anger right now.

They just started 2-9! An owner took a dump on the fans on Opening Day after dumping a bunch of salary! We will talk about the last two weeks for YEARS.

It’s kind of funny how the Reds genuinely tried in 2020 and 2021 and so they at least played ok to start the year while each of the last years where they just slapped something together and hoped for the best (2018, 2019, 2022) have all seen the Reds get off to horrific starts.

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo

It’s kind of funny how the Reds genuinely tried in 2020 and 2021 and so they at least played ok to start the year while each of the last years where they just slapped something together and hoped for the best (2018, 2019, 2022) have all seen the Reds get off to horrific starts.

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But...but they can't afford getting off to fast starts

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Originally Posted by Redsfaithful

I doubt many of them are actually as bad as their stats would indicate currently, at least I'd hope not or they'll blow past 100 losses.

I'm not trying to make more out of this start than it is, there are 2-9 stretches even for good teams every year, obviously it's amplified happening at the start. But you add in the failson owner comments coming right after a salary dump which came right after they locked out the players which came right after the Bengals went to the Super Bowl and showed all sorts of things are actually possible if an organization tries, and it's just dire.

What fanbase wouldn't be gnashing teeth right here? It's actually funny that there's anyone at all pumping the brakes on anger right now.

They just started 2-9! An owner took a dump on the fans on Opening Day after dumping a bunch of salary! We will talk about the last two weeks for YEARS.

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I agree with your sentiment here. It’s amplified because it’s the start of the year and the owner made an ass of himself on opening day.

As far as the players go, aside from Naquin and Drury who are overplaying, and Farmer and Stephenson who are meeting expectations, every other player is worse to significantly worse than we can expect from them for the rest of the year. Including Moose and Aquino.

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Listening to Bob and Phil take victory laps over this on Opening Day was truly nauseating.

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Originally Posted by Redsfaithful

I doubt many of them are actually as bad as their stats would indicate currently, at least I'd hope not or they'll blow past 100 losses.

I'm not trying to make more out of this start than it is, there are 2-9 stretches even for good teams every year, obviously it's amplified happening at the start. But you add in the failson owner comments coming right after a salary dump which came right after they locked out the players which came right after the Bengals went to the Super Bowl and showed all sorts of things are actually possible if an organization tries, and it's just dire.

What fanbase wouldn't be gnashing teeth right here? It's actually funny that there's anyone at all pumping the brakes on anger right now.

They just started 2-9! An owner took a dump on the fans on Opening Day after dumping a bunch of salary! We will talk about the last two weeks for YEARS.

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Just to be clear: I totally agree with you.

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Originally Posted by Redsfaithful

I doubt many of them are actually as bad as their stats would indicate currently, at least I'd hope not or they'll blow past 100 losses.

I'm not trying to make more out of this start than it is, there are 2-9 stretches even for good teams every year, obviously it's amplified happening at the start. But you add in the failson owner comments coming right after a salary dump which came right after they locked out the players which came right after the Bengals went to the Super Bowl and showed all sorts of things are actually possible if an organization tries, and it's just dire.

What fanbase wouldn't be gnashing teeth right here? It's actually funny that there's anyone at all pumping the brakes on anger right now.

They just started 2-9! An owner took a dump on the fans on Opening Day after dumping a bunch of salary! We will talk about the last two weeks for YEARS.

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This is exactly why the Reds need to divorce themselves from Phil. He’s a pox that’s gonna pee on the fire of attempt to correct this ship

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Originally Posted by westofyou

He’s a pox that’s gonna pee on the fire of attempt to correct this ship

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That man is a mixed metaphor and he must be stopped.

One thing I would add to this "are you watching" discussion is that I can't remember a stretch of games this long with such weird start times. Late, early, really late, weekday day games...it's been something "strange" nearly every game. They're about to play their 13th game and really only the Sunday Atlanta game has been at the "normal" start times around 7 on weekdays and 1 on Sunday. I'm as down and weary as the next person but the truth is, I'd be struggling to watch games at these times if they were 11-1.

reds are 0-8 since frat castellini opened his mouth

Really hoping GABP is full of Cardinals fans this weekend.

From C. Trent today: the Castellini curse:

The Reds have now lost nine straight games — call it the Castellini Curse — since starting the season on a promising note with a split against the world champion Braves in Atlanta, a turnabout that coincided with Reds president Phil Castellini scoffing at those fans who dared question management’s decisions.

Castellini put a black cloud over the home opener, one that followed the team to normally sunny Southern California.

And the roster responded in kind, losing nine in a row and mustering little offense over that stretch.

“It feels like it’s been like Groundhog Day over the last couple of weeks,” first baseman Joey Votto said. “It’s been one of the uglier stretches I remember experiencing in a Reds uniform. We need to be much, much better.”

It’s hard to be much, much worse.

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Originally Posted by westofyou

This is exactly why the Reds need to divorce themselves from Phil. He’s a pox that’s gonna pee on the fire of attempt to correct this ship

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He basically said the same thing as that Mariners guy but since he's family, he won't get canned. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Chip R

He basically said the same thing as that Mariners guy but since he's family, he won't get canned. :rolleyes:

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Instead of canning him, they should require him to engage Reds fans and make amends. They could draw fans names for Castellini pies in the face days at GAB, hold Castellinis vs. fans pregame paintball on the field, and every homestand have a Castellini dunk booth day in the tailgating areas.

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Originally Posted by CesarGeronimo

Instead of canning him, they should require him to engage Reds fans and make amends. They could draw fans names for Castellini pies in the face days at GAB, hold Castellinis vs. fans pregame paintball on the field, and every homestand have a Castellini dunk booth day in the tailgating areas.

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They should have a raffle and the winner gets to man a Hot Dog Gun at the center of the diamond and Phil will dress up in an old wool Reds uniform and have to run around the bases while the fan shoots fully dressed coneys at him. It should be done on a Sunday afternoon when it's really humid. Phil will have 40 seconds to get around the bases, if he doesn't he has to go again and do it in 50 seconds and so on.

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Originally Posted by westofyou

They should have a raffle and the winner gets to man a Hot Dog Gun at the center of the diamond and Phil will dress up in an old wool Reds uniform and have to run around the bases while the fan shoots fully dressed coneys at him. It should be done on a Sunday afternoon when it's really humid. Phil will have 40 seconds to get around the bases, if he doesn't he has to go again and do it in 50 seconds and so on.

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Even better. Now that's fun. :lol:

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Originally Posted by muethibp

One thing I would add to this "are you watching" discussion is that I can't remember a stretch of games this long with such weird start times. Late, early, really late, weekday day games...it's been something "strange" nearly every game. They're about to play their 13th game and really only the Sunday Atlanta game has been at the "normal" start times around 7 on weekdays and 1 on Sunday. I'm as down and weary as the next person but the truth is, I'd be struggling to watch games at these times if they were 11-1.

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When the schedule came out I thought it was a rough start for the Reds. Opening day was on the road, they had two home games and then went to the west coast where games start after most people are in bed. Add into it that they were playing two top tier clubs and you had a recipe for disaster.

Phil's comments were stupid by themselves, but when you add in a tough opening stretch with the likelihood of them coming home with a poor record, it was even more idiotic.

FWIW, I don't think the record is much better if they had Castellanos, Suarez, and Winker.

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Originally Posted by CesarGeronimo

Instead of canning him, they should require him to engage Reds fans and make amends. They could draw fans names for Castellini pies in the face days at GAB, hold Castellinis vs. fans pregame paintball on the field, and every homestand have a Castellini dunk booth day in the tailgating areas.

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That's good natured fun and all, but what he said, and he was telling the truth keep in mind, was not funny.

Ownership is subtracting from the fan experience, for profit. That was the quiet part out loud.

They are milking not just the franchise, but also the fan experience.

And only a monopoly like MLB is, would allow for that sort of thing to occur.

In short, they suck.