Any time that you've cheered on fiscal responsibility and/or pointed at the Rays, Guardians, or Brewers as teams to emulate-- which is nearly all of this thread and many before that.Quote:
Originally Posted by 757690
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Any time that you've cheered on fiscal responsibility and/or pointed at the Rays, Guardians, or Brewers as teams to emulate-- which is nearly all of this thread and many before that.Quote:
Originally Posted by 757690
I have not cheered on fiscal responsibility nor said the Reds should emulate the Rays/Guardians/Brewers model. I have said that the Reds are following that model, but I have also pointed out the downfalls of following that model. I have been consistent for years in advocating for the Reds to spend more money and be more aggressive about winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee
If I have done any of that in this thread, please point it out.
You’re wrong. 7383838 has been agreeing with you this whole time.
One by-product of the Reds’ style of management is the absence of stars and post-season award winners. While winning is the #1 thing, it’s nice for fans to see their team’s players recognized.
Yes, Bauer got a short-season Cy Young and India a ROY. But in recent years Reds have been regularly overlooked (even when arguably deserving). We saw that this season with no ROY, or GG, or Manager of the Year finalists. And one all star (the minimum).
Again, this isn’t the most important element of rooting for a ballclub - but the lack of recognition is not a plus for Reds fans.
Just stop. You're not making any meaningful points that would indict any acceptable method of calculating probability, and you can't even seem to understand concepts like "objective" versus "subjective". It's just not your lane.Quote:
Originally Posted by 757690
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Originally Posted by SteelSD
Odds of a crappy regular season team winning the World Series has increased a gazillion fold, actually, it's an infinite ratio as it wasn't possible in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by 757690
While there's only half the teams to have to compete against, there aren't any dynasties to have to wait for them to disentegrate away slowly.
It's so much easier to win the World Series now than it was before. You don't have to have a dominant regular season team with Starting Pitching depth. You only need one dominant Starter (the difference between winning a playoffs series including the series-clinching and opening game of a series) three quality Relievers (who can pitch every game because of so much time off during the playoffs), one MVP-caliber hitter and quality Defense (something extremely necessary in the playoffs). Everyone else can be average, and that will get you into the playoffs with a sub-90-win team. It's an inexpensive formula that any franchise can afford. Getting that Top-10 Starting Pitcher is the most difficult thing to acquire. He has to be a Veteran of at least 5 years pitching in the Majors which means he's not going to be cheap.
Get to the playoffs and you have as good of a chance to win the World Series as any 100-win team has.
The goal no longer is to win a Division by being a 95+ Win team. It's to form a playoff-series winning group that's designed as I stated above. A team with a #1 Starter not as good as the Starter I described above and four #2 Starters is going to lose every time to the team I described above that has average starters after their "better" Ace. It's hard to win a Series after losing Game 1. It happens, but it's hard.
Post #395 (chosen completely at random in this one thread):Quote:
Originally Posted by 757690
"Reckless" meant, in this case, spending money on free agents. You're absolutely cheering on fiscal penury.Quote:
There isn’t much difference in the base of talent between the 2010-2013 teams and the current team. They weren’t reckless back then and were successful.
I'd expect you to admit this, but I'm sure the other you will come along in a few minutes and try to explain away how this ackchooally means that you want the Reds to spend $100M to compete for the second wild card.
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Haha, if you want to use this as proof that I cheer on the Reds being frugal, go ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee
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Let's assume we trade Elly. What could we ask for?
Speaking of potential REDS player movement, I saw this comment from this podcast....
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/cincinnati-reds
"Could you explain why any team would trade something of value for Jonathan India? He’s been one of the worst defensive second basemen in baseball both of the last two years (according to both DRS and OAA), plus he’s been a below average hitter by wRC+ both years? He’s also had injury concerns both years. Maybe I’m wrong, but wouldn’t just about any contender aim higher than him as a starting second baseman? (34:10)"
I see a statement like this from a non-REDS fan and it makes me think, "Why are we even considering sticking with India?" He's a horrible Defender which immediately eliminates him from any bench/utility role. He lacks enough other attributes (extremely poor defense on a very important defensive position, while blocking a better defensive and better offensive player who is much younger, and many injuries). The REDS need to look at him with the reality that he's not going to bring back anything more than a low-level prospect that is outside of any team's Top-25 players. That Rookie-of-the-Year Award is a thing of the past, like Jerome Walton's was (1.9 WAR his rookie season, 1.8 WAR the rest of his career w/ 1.4 of that being his peak physical year of Age-28/29 season with the REDS, but even then he only had 188 PA's). He's taking a roster spot and a 40-man spot of someone needed more by the REDS. The season isn't going to be successful or unsuccessful based on India's "leadership" that he brings. When he's gone during the Winter, he won't have a chance to be an impact and that void will be filled by someone else, or more than someone else.
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Fans forgiveness.Quote:
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Show me you got nothing without telling me you got nothing...Quote:
Originally Posted by 757690
Reds have done the tear down. Theyve done the prospect build. It’s time to put up or shut up as far as spending on veteran help goes.
Was trying to derail that other conversation by saying something crazy :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingspoint