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08-14-2008, 08:32 PM
Falls City Beer

Re: Yonder Alonso

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Originally Posted by LouisvilleCARDS

If we got two top ten picks next year, which it looks like, then I can see why we don't care too much about getting picks for Dunn.

Unless they punt those two picks as well.
08-14-2008, 08:34 PM
flyer85

Re: Yonder Alonso

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Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1

I don't disagree with the premise here, but the Reds need to up the ante. If they're offering $2.5 when the pick behind the Reds is getting more, that's a problem.

I assume that's the plan, but it will come to fruition tomorrow.

If Alonso and his agent are unwilling to back off the $7 million, they seriously need to tell him to take a hike. He's not Josh Beckett or Rick Porcello.

WJ stated they were not going to negotiate against themselves. Until the Alonso camp moves there is no negotaition
08-14-2008, 08:35 PM
_Sir_Charles_

Re: Yonder Alonso

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Unless they punt those two picks as well.

But then we'd get THREE picks the next year. Wow. :D:rolleyes:
08-14-2008, 08:36 PM
LouisvilleCARDS

Re: Yonder Alonso

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Unless they punt those two picks as well.

But .. we would get THREE picks for 2010! :beerme:
08-14-2008, 08:42 PM
Falls City Beer

Re: Yonder Alonso

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Originally Posted by flyer85

WJ stated they were not going to negotiate against themselves. Until the Alonso camp moves there is no negotaition

Yeah, but what he doesn't say is whether or not they've moved off their slot offer....
08-14-2008, 09:03 PM
redhawk61

Re: Yonder Alonso

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Originally Posted by LouisvilleCARDS

But .. we would get THREE picks for 2010! :beerme:

nope you only get one do over. So the #8 pick(alonso's pick) next year would be top priority in signing
08-14-2008, 09:08 PM
Always Red

Re: Yonder Alonso

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Unless they punt those two picks as well.

Yes, if we can't sign one this year, why on earth would we be able to sign 2 next year??
08-14-2008, 09:11 PM
flyer85

Re: Yonder Alonso

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Originally Posted by Always Red

If we can't sign one this year, why on earth would we be able to sign 2 next year??

draft guys that aren't asking 3 times slot money
08-14-2008, 09:13 PM
Falls City Beer

Re: Yonder Alonso

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Originally Posted by flyer85

draft guys that aren't asking 3 times slot money

Top ten guys ask for more every year. Especially guys capable of walking into the majors.

This won't get any easier.
08-14-2008, 09:19 PM
dougdirt

Re: Yonder Alonso

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Top ten guys ask for more every year. Especially guys capable of walking into the majors.

This won't get any easier.

The amount of guys able to walk into the majors is limited to about 1 guy every 3 years or so, if that. I don't think Alonso is that guy, otherwise he likely wouldn't have been 'overdrafted' by the Reds at #7. And it will get easier if MLB grows a pair and rather than having 'suggested slotting' have actual slotting. Get what you are drafted at.
08-14-2008, 09:20 PM
Falls City Beer

Re: Yonder Alonso

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Originally Posted by dougdirt

The amount of guys able to walk into the majors is limited to about 1 guy every 3 years or so, if that. I don't think Alonso is that guy, otherwise he likely wouldn't have been 'overdrafted' by the Reds at #7. And it will get easier if MLB grows a pair and rather than having 'suggested slotting' have actual slotting. Get what you are drafted at.

I doubt they'll adopt something that prevents prospects from earning a payday.
08-14-2008, 09:24 PM
dougdirt

Re: Yonder Alonso

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

I doubt they'll adopt something that prevents prospects from earning a payday.

Earning a payday? The slot says 2.5 million for Alonso. Thats a payday every single person on this board wishes they had. I don't know why they wouldn't adopt something that would be for the betterment of baseball. A slotting system would indeed make baseball's draft serve its actual purpose. Teams would finally start taking the best player available every time. We wouldn't see things like the second best player in a draft going 27th overall like we did in 2007. We won't see things like Matt Bush going #1 overall. Its so simple it hurts.
08-14-2008, 09:26 PM
Falls City Beer

Re: Yonder Alonso

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Originally Posted by dougdirt

Earning a payday? The slot says 2.5 million for Alonso. Thats a payday every single person on this board wishes they had. I don't know why they wouldn't adopt something that would be for the betterment of baseball. A slotting system would indeed make baseball's draft serve its actual purpose. Teams would finally start taking the best player available every time. We wouldn't see things like the second best player in a draft going 27th overall like we did in 2007. We won't see things like Matt Bush going #1 overall. Its so simple it hurts.

Because it's not for the betterment of the prospects. Why shouldn't these prospects get to ask for what most teams are willing to pay?
08-14-2008, 09:30 PM
nate

Re: Yonder Alonso

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Because it's not for the betterment of the prospects. Why shouldn't these prospects get to ask for what most teams are willing to pay?

Do you think most teams would give Alonso what he's asking for?
08-14-2008, 09:31 PM
Falls City Beer

Re: Yonder Alonso

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Originally Posted by nate

Do you think most teams would give Alonso what he's asking for?

I don't know. But that's not the point. He should have the right to *ask* for it.

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