Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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Old school 1983
If the Reds moved you’d cry yourself to sleep over it. We all would.
As a person that has never lived in the Cincinnati area I wouldn’t care at all. In fact, I would prefer if they were out of Charlotte, NC. Would give me more excuses to visit.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
If I had the Reds’ ear, I would tell them that nobody cares about your lack of resources. It may be a logical excuse for the team’s limited success, but nobody is interested. Fans don’t root for your financial statements, they just want a quality team.
The Reds’ messaging should focus more on their plan, their timetable, their reasoning.
They should say, look, we went into free agency and it gave us a decent team. But we want more. If we continue to build a young core, we think we eventually will have a top notch team. We have tried it various ways and are convinced that this is going to bring us the best result.
That should be the message.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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RedTeamGo!
As a person that has never lived in the Cincinnati area I wouldn’t care at all. In fact, I would prefer if they were out of Charlotte, NC. Would give me more excuses to visit.
Wouldn’t bother me either. Never lived within 2 hours of Cinci and plan to be moving further south in the coming months. Love the Reds, don’t really care what city they play in
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
Nothing gives you hope for the young season like your COO saying "if you want to look at what would you do with this team to have it be more profitable, make more money, compete more in the current economic system that this game exists, it would be to pick it up and move it somewhere else. Be careful what you ask for"
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
What an absolute scumbag. I am absolutely blown away. Eat the rich.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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NachoMan
That Phil C. WLW interview was something else. In a nutshell:
1) Fans shouldn't complain about the Reds sucking because "where else you gonna go?"
2) Fans should beware of hurting the Castellini's feelings too much because of veiled threats to move the team
If a tree falls in the woods and no one cares... He hasn't had a single year where we got out of the first round of the playoffs.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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Old school 1983
Well duh lack of evidence isn’t evidence of absence. But it’s pretty common knowledge you don’t receive money for a capital gain until the gain is realized via a sale of the asset. The only way to get dollars out of it is either to operate it to a profit or borrow against its value. Sure, he doesn’t know if they’ve borrowed. That was the point. Unless we have access to their actual books, complaining about them being able to spend more is nonsense. We know what they spend a year on payroll. We know that’s enough to compete and win the division. Spend the money competently and quit whining about things we have no real details of. If they were spending like 50-70 million a year. I’d be going nuts with you. That’s really not enough unless you hit on damn near every decision. They’re 120-150 most years. That should get you there in the Nl Central if you spend wisely
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Fair enough.
I am a huge Reds fan and i use to be right there defending them. There is no since has said in five different ways he could careless what we think. Think about the madness of you defending a team who hasn't won a playoff series in 25 years with such furor thinking you are the only one in the right. Regardless what you say they are a **** organization and they have been for a long time now. There is no debating that
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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Rowsdower
Wouldn’t bother me either. Never lived within 2 hours of Cinci and plan to be moving further south in the coming months. Love the Reds, don’t really care what city they play in
There are tons of terrible billionaires down south, let one of them buy it and move the team to NC. Charlotte or Raleigh. Maybe they will actually spend enough on the team and those cities and the surrounding areas are wayyyyyyyyyy nicer than the Cinci area.
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Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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LeatherPants
Good lord. I'd say someone from the organization needs to keep him off the air but the nutters are running the asylum.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
Also glossed over in that interview is Castellini saying the plan for now on is to “stick to developing our own guys” or ruling out on spending on free agents ever again. Which was already clear to everyone I think, except old school.
There was something also ominous sounding about even that as he said something like developing our own guys, and keeping them around “for as long as their affordable.” Count me out of that too. If they’re gonna do some incompetent version of the """"Rays model"""" and trade guys like Greene or India or whoever as soon as they hit arbitration or shortly after, I’m not interested in that either lol
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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LeatherPants
Lol at Soho asking him about the comments that made fans mad and Phil replying with "You'll have to be more specific."
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
It's difficult to imagine worse messaging for fans.
Truly, a man who has had everything given to him in life will never understand what it means to be a fan. While, I think his point about us not understanding what it means to be an owner has merit, that point will not encourage fans to spend more money. He made it very clear that profitablity is the goal. If that's the case, he just hurt himself in that department as well
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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LeatherPants
Oh my god. This guy has to be either drunk, on cocaine, or both. What in the world is going on??
He is fuming at the fan reaction. Who goes on TV and radio on opening day and threatens the fanbase and talks down to them like this?
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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LeatherPants
Holy **** lol!!!! What are they doing?????
