Re: Pete Rose Committed Statutory Rape (according to court docs)
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Larry Schuler
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This is not the kind of post I've come to expect from you, Larry.
Re: Pete Rose Committed Statutory Rape (according to court docs)
Glad to hear there are so many enlightened feminists posting here. makes me wonder how Mr Grab em by the something something ever carried Ohio.
Re: Pete Rose Committed Statutory Rape (according to court docs)
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RedTeamGo!
Nah, raping a teenager is worse than words.
Was it actual rape though? Or was it consensual? Big difference. Still not right due to the age difference (anybody with a teenage daughter would agree, and I have two) but consensual vs rape is a HUGE difference. I'm not talking statutory rape. I'm talking forcible rape.
Re: Pete Rose Committed Statutory Rape (according to court docs)
Todd Benzinger "dated" a girl I grew up with. She was 16.
Re: Pete Rose Committed Statutory Rape (according to court docs)
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Tracy Jones
Was it actual rape though? Or was it consensual? Big difference. Still not right due to the age difference (anybody with a teenage daughter would agree, and I have two) but consensual vs rape is a HUGE difference. I'm not talking statutory rape. I'm talking forcible rape.
you do realize the entire basis of statutory rape is the woman is not of the age to consent, right? thus making it non consensual?
jesus dude
Re: Pete Rose Committed Statutory Rape (according to court docs)
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Tracy Jones
Was it actual rape though? Or was it consensual? Big difference. Still not right due to the age difference (anybody with a teenage daughter would agree, and I have two) but consensual vs rape is a HUGE difference. I'm not talking statutory rape. I'm talking forcible rape.
The report says she was not yet 16. So, let's just say she was 15. That is a child. Pete Rose was a 34 year old adult, one of the most famous people in the country, and the biggest celeb in Cincinnati. A 15 year old child is very naive and impressionable. Any way you slice it, that is rape.
Re: Pete Rose Committed Statutory Rape (according to court docs)
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Tracy Jones
Todd Benzinger "dated" a girl I grew up with. She was 16.
great, so he's scum too.
Re: Pete Rose Committed Statutory Rape (according to court docs)
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Mutaman
Glad to hear there are so many enlightened feminists posting here. makes me wonder how Mr Grab em by the something something ever carried Ohio.
Thinking sex with a 15 year old as a 34 year old is rape is feminism?
Wowzer.
Re: Pete Rose Committed Statutory Rape (according to court docs)
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RedTeamGo!
Your 21 year old dad asked a 16 year old to marry him? How old was she when he started dating her? Did they ask the parents for consent like when she turned 16? Was your dad like cruising the high school dances like Mathew McConahay in Dazed and Confused? She had you "by the time" she was 17 and they asked to get married when she turned 16? Did they get married the same day? I have so many questions.
Dad went to McNick with my mom's older brothers (my uncles). They were pretty good friends and my mom was just like the attractive younger sister who obviously began to blossom and my dad had a crush on her.
So dad had the hots for mom, mom liked dad plus wanted to move out of her parents house, so they chose to get married.
As far as I've been told i was conceived on their honeymoon (they weren't exactly rich) at the ole El Rancho Rankin motel in Mt Washington across from Lunkin Airport.
Re: Pete Rose Committed Statutory Rape (according to court docs)
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Scooter
As far as I've been told i was conceived on their honeymoon (they weren't exactly rich) at the ole El Rancho Rankin motel in Mt Washington across from Lunkin Airport.
Were you also a preemie?
Re: Pete Rose Committed Statutory Rape (according to court docs)
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Homer's Ghost
you do realize the entire basis of statutory rape is the woman is not of the age to consent, right? thus making it non consensual?
jesus dude
So if she's 15 in August but 16 in September she's suddenly mature enough to consent now? Is that really what you're going with?
"Jesus duuuude"
15 year olds are consenting to have sex all the time. Whether it's with a 13, 15, 18, 25, or 34 year old it's not the same as that person she's having sex with forcing himself on her. Not even close. Can she be taken advantage of because she's young and naive? Yes. That's probably the case in many instances, particularly with someone with a massive age difference. But again, it's not the same as forcible rape.
Re: Pete Rose Committed Statutory Rape (according to court docs)
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Tracy Jones
So if she's 15 in August but 16 in September she's suddenly mature enough to consent now? Is that really what you're going with?
"Jesus duuuude"
15 year olds are consenting to have sex all the time. Whether it's with a 13, 15, 18, 25, or 34 year old it's not the same as that person she's having sex with forcing himself on her. Not even close. Can she be taken advantage of because she's young and naive? Yes. That's probably the case in many instances, particularly with someone with a massive age difference. But again, it's not the same as forcible rape.
My guy, you know there is a wide variety of things that constitute as rape that are not violent/forcible
Re: Pete Rose Committed Statutory Rape (according to court docs)
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Mutaman
Glad to hear there are so many enlightened feminists posting here. makes me wonder how Mr Grab em by the something something ever carried Ohio.
I'm not seeing much out of control feminism here. I'm seeing sensible people speaking up against a deplorable act. No matter how you slice it man who is married in his mid 30s having sex with a 15-16 year old is wrong. Just as wrong as if the sexes were reversed.
Re: Pete Rose Committed Statutory Rape (according to court docs)
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Tracy Jones
So if she's 15 in August but 16 in September she's suddenly mature enough to consent now? Is that really what you're going with?
This is kinda one of these places where you have to draw a bright line. So yes.
And of course there's still a difference between statutory and forced rape. It's just not THAT big a difference.
Re: Pete Rose Committed Statutory Rape (according to court docs)
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RedTeamGo!
The report says she was not yet 16. So, let's just say she was 15. That is a child. Pete Rose was a 34 year old adult, one of the most famous people in the country, and the biggest celeb in Cincinnati. A 15 year old child is very naive and impressionable. Any way you slice it, that is rape.
Trust me. It's not the same. It's obviously not right, but it's not the same as forcible rape. I'd be pissed for the former. I'd kill him for the latter.
