Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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Originally Posted by
RedTeamGo!
If the Reds lose like 20 of their next 30 and are looking at 12-24 record, or something similar, the attendance is going to get reaaaaaaaalllll bad. I just saw some images from todays game. I get it, early afternoon weekday game with poor weather, it looked like a Rays game. If people shun the Reds the owners will have to sell. I am starting to think this is the beginning of the end.
FWIW day games generally draw pretty well. You had a couple of factors, a day game the day before (opening day) and weather that looked like a washout all day long. Most people aren't going to go to two day games in a row.
And the weather looked like rain all week. Had it been a nice day, I think the attendance would probably have doubled.
All that aside, this was the first opening day in recent memory that wasn't sold out hours after OD tickets were made available. I am sure the had a difficult time selling season tickets and ticket packs after the lockout and dismantling of the team.
The schedule did them no favors. Four in Atlanta then a west coast trip, they may be done for after the first main road trip of the season and then it will get pretty bad.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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Originally Posted by
HalKing
When I read that yesterday it made me mad and embarrassed.
I am still positive with the on field talent. Not happy with ownership or front office. This division was ripe for the taking but screwy moves turned us from having a solid shot at a playoff team to one that has to have a lot of things go right to get there.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
You MIGHT convince the Castellinis to sell, but you will not convince all the other folks in the ownership group to sell. It’s rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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Originally Posted by
MikeS21
You MIGHT convince the Castellinis to sell, but you will not convince all the other folks in the ownership group to sell. It’s rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
The others don't matter since they aren't managing partners. Some of these people (or their ancestors) have been minority owners since the 70s.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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Originally Posted by
MikeS21
You MIGHT convince the Castellinis to sell, but you will not convince all the other folks in the ownership group to sell. It’s rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Maybe we can get the Williams' in charge, they seem to want to win.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
Deadspin had an article too (Caution - NSFW language):
https://deadspin.com/actually-dude-w...ere-1848788898
I can’t believe The Reds are allowing Phil’s half-baked non-apology to stand as some sort of “closure” on this. All sorts of national media outlets have picked it up, it’s become a really big deal. And they remain silent.
Just an awful look.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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Originally Posted by
fearofpopvol1
The saddest (worst) part is that I thought originally that Phil actually verbalized the apology that would have been written. No, instead, he just put out a statement. What a coward.
That was the smart part. Do NOT put this guy in front of a microphone again. No talking for that guy.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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Originally Posted by
The Operator
Deadspin had an article too (Caution - NSFW language):
https://deadspin.com/actually-dude-w...ere-1848788898
I can’t believe The Reds are allowing Phil’s half-baked non-apology to stand as some sort of “closure” on this. All sorts of national media outlets have picked it up, it’s become a really big deal. And they remain silent.
Just an awful look.
Sorry, but bad take. You can't make what he did better by saying more things. Then only closure is for them to stop talking about it and ride out the storm of anger.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
At some point minimize the damage - the more they say, the worse they keep looking, so at some point simply shutting up might not be a bad idea.
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Originally Posted by
The Operator
Deadspin had an article too (Caution - NSFW language):
https://deadspin.com/actually-dude-w...ere-1848788898
I can’t believe The Reds are allowing Phil’s half-baked non-apology to stand as some sort of “closure” on this. All sorts of national media outlets have picked it up, it’s become a really big deal. And they remain silent.
Just an awful look.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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Originally Posted by
M2
Sorry, but bad take. You can't make what he did better by saying more things. Then only closure is for them to stop talking about it and ride out the storm of anger.
Oh I’m not saying put Phil in front of a mic again. Just something more than what they did from someone who has some clue how to some sincere when talking to the public.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
Pure speculation here, but sometimes the "why" someone says something off the cuff or rude is very simplistic. How do we not know Phil was sauced or on something when he spoke like that? Not giving him a pass at all, but I doubt he comes out the next homestand and says "Sorry, I had a couple bourbons before I got on air."
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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Originally Posted by
The Operator
Deadspin had an article too (Caution - NSFW language):
https://deadspin.com/actually-dude-w...ere-1848788898
I can’t believe The Reds are allowing Phil’s half-baked non-apology to stand as some sort of “closure” on this. All sorts of national media outlets have picked it up, it’s become a really big deal. And they remain silent.
Just an awful look.
at this point, even the best PR person in the world would tell them the best thing to do is STFU and hope this somewhat blows over.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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Originally Posted by
The Operator
Oh I’m not saying put Phil in front of a mic again. Just something more than what they did from someone who has some clue how to some sincere when talking to the public.
Nope, duck and cover. No one from the Reds has managed anything like sincerity since the start of the offseason. No changing that now. Do not even engage the question of why the fans are angry when it gets asked. Just market the ever-loving hell out of the kids. The only answer they should be giving is "how 'bout dem kids?"
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
We need to figure out a way to get this guy to buy the Reds:
https://www.axios.com/arizona-iced-t...7e9b78320.html
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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Originally Posted by
forfreelin04
Pure speculation here, but sometimes the "why" someone says something off the cuff or rude is very simplistic. How do we not know Phil was sauced or on something when he spoke like that? Not giving him a pass at all, but I doubt he comes out the next homestand and says "Sorry, I had a couple bourbons before I got on air."
He doubled down at something like 11 AM. I'm not a teetotaler by any means but that would just make me want to punt him to the curb even harder.
