They do virtually everything better than most ballclubs. They’re second in WS trophies despite being smack dab in the middle of the continent in a city that no one wants to move to. Pretty impressive, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by RedTeamGo!
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They do virtually everything better than most ballclubs. They’re second in WS trophies despite being smack dab in the middle of the continent in a city that no one wants to move to. Pretty impressive, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by RedTeamGo!
I have no idea what that has to do with squeezing quality innings out of washed up pitchers in 2023 but sure why notQuote:
Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
Quality organizations figure things out. The Reds used to be one of those organizations. They haven’t been in 30 years. I assume you don’t remember. It’s understandable. That was a long time ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedTeamGo!
At this time and until proven otherwise, the Cardinals are serious and the Reds are unserious. FCB's point is why you would likely trust a player acquisition by the Ravens and you would likely not trust a player acquisition by the Chargers. It's pretty cut and dry.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedTeamGo!
Exactly. Good is as good does. Some organizations care. Others don’t. At base, it really is that simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plus Plus
2023 put a dent in that theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plus Plus
So the 15 straight years of finishing over .500 that preceded 2023? What was that? The Reds have never in their history come close to a feat like that. Not even during the Red Machine years.Quote:
Originally Posted by 757690
And the Cardinals will not repeat 2023; they will countercyclically spend their way to contention until their farm bears a new crop. It’s Business 101. Teams either come to win or they don’t.
The Cards spent 180M$ in 2023 trying to compete. The Reds went with Luke Weaver, played way over their heads for 6 weeks, and finished 2 games over .500.Quote:
Originally Posted by 757690
The dent is small.
That makes the dent bigger. The Cardinals outspent the Reds 2.5 to 1, and finished 11 games behind them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinsm
Which one is the better run organization? Which one gets more out its players?
The idea that the Reds can’t simply crib the Cardinals’ methods and become consistent winners is circular argument nonsense. “They’re pooooor! They CAN’T spend!” “Why are they poor?” “BECAUSE THEY’RE POOR, BRO!!!”
Never mind that spending wisely primes the pump. Which leads to more revenue. Voila!!!
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The Saint Louis Cardinals.Quote:
Originally Posted by 757690
Sweet, we are going with the one year sample to prove a point now?!Quote:
Originally Posted by 757690
The Cards tried and underperformed 1 year, the Reds fell into performance for a month plus and all is forgiven.
Last year, the Reds were the better run organization. That puts a dent in the theory that the Cardinals are the better run organization. It doesn’t prove anything, but it makes it harder for FCB to argue his point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinsm
I hope the Reds do something soon because I know I can't be the only one that is tired of seeing the same 6 posters beat a subject to death, bury it, dig it back up, beat it some more, throw it off a cliff, run over it, light it on fire, piss on it, etc...
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Some of you guys need to get out of the house.
At least get some food delivered, and eat it at the table away from the PC for a few hours.
The Yankees have like what 28 rings. Even they don’t win it every year. Your argument is self-soothing nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by 757690
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No exit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinsm
I literally could say the same thing about the same 6 posters who beat to death the subject that the Reds suck and will always suck. I could say the same thing about any message board on any subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinsm