Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
Not for nothing but... I think this team may have a LEGIT shot to set the mark for worst Reds team of modern times in terms of record.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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membengal
Not for nothing but... I think this team may have a LEGIT shot to set the records for worst Reds team of modern times in terms of record.
Losing 100 games is really hard to do, and I didn't think they had a chance to be that bad before the season, but oh boy, they aren't good.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
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membengal
Not for nothing but... I think this team may have a LEGIT shot to set the records for worst Reds team of modern times in terms of record.
This team isn't quite as bad as the 1982 team. But with the right people getting injured they could be there.
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cumberlandreds
This team isn't quite as bad as the 1982 team. But with the right people getting injured they could be there.
The offense might get there.
It's truly horrid.
I still think the bullpen and especially the starting staff will stabilize as guys get healthy/ learn their roles.
Until the Trading Deadline. Which will be vicious. Red ownership is going to gut this team.
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cumberlandreds
This team isn't quite as bad as the 1982 team. But with the right people getting injured they could be there.
right. Like, if India is out for any length of time, or NEEDING the kids who are in the rotation to eat innings and be solid, or if they deal Castillo at some point, etc. etc. Like, the things that could go wrong are fairly foreseeable and they have very little room for error.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
I’lll say it again - the Reds will win 88 games!
But maybe not this season:(
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Bourgeois Zee
The offense might get there.
It's truly horrid.
I still think the bullpen and especially the starting staff will stabilize as guys get healthy/ learn their roles.
Until the Trading Deadline. Which will be vicious. Red ownership is going to gut this team.
the bolded is what is putting me in mind of the 1982-83 teams. Those teams could pitch. Soto was amazing. Bruce Berenyi laid down a 3.36 ERA and was rewarded with a 9-18 record in 1982. Frank Pastore, before Gary Burbank immortalized him was passable. The pitching was FINE. It was OK. the offense was...brutal. If anything happens to Votto, if India is out, I mean...they have a chance to be REALLY bad.
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LeatherPants
Losing 100 games is really hard to do, and I didn't think they had a chance to be that bad before the season, but oh boy, they aren't good.
yea, in today's world, it's really hard to lose 100 games, due to multiple teams not even trying.
For example, I think we have 19 games against the Pirates, it's reasonable to expect at least 9-10 wins out of that, even with this Reds roster.
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membengal
the bolded is what is putting me in mind of the 1982-83 teams. Those teams could pitch. Soto was amazing. Bruce Berenyi laid down a 3.36 ERA and was rewarded with a 9-18 record in 1982. Frank Pastore, before Gary Burbank immortalized him was passable. The pitching was FINE. It was OK. the offense was...brutal. If anything happens to Votto, if India is out, I mean...they have a chance to be REALLY bad.
After the 81 season the Reds traded or let go Foster, Griffey and Collins. After the 2021 season the Reds traded or let go Winker, Castellanos and Suarez. See a pattern.......
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After the 81 season the Reds traded or let go Foster, Griffey and Collins. After the 2021 season the Reds traded or let go Winker, Castellanos and Suarez. See a pattern.......
Why is Suarez there. None of those other guys forgot how to hit.
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As I watched last night, I had thoughts of Larry Biittner, Mike Vail, and Wayne Krenchicki
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Old school 1983
Why is Suarez there. None of those other guys forgot how to hit.
I just threw him in to make an even three for three. I didn't mind at all they traded him because it is doubtful he will ever bounce back.
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As I watched last night, I had thoughts of Larry Biittner, Mike Vail, and Wayne Krenchicki
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I see a lot of Paul Householders out there.
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After the 81 season the Reds traded or let go Foster, Griffey and Collins. After the 2021 season the Reds traded or let go Winker, Castellanos and Suarez. See a pattern.......
In addition, Iglesias and DeSlafini both had outstanding years for other teams in 2021 and would be among the Reds' best players if they were still in Cincy. And I'll be interested to see what Sonny Gray does this year.
But where am I gonna go? No place. Not to GAB certainly. Where are the Reds top players gonna go? They're leavin on a jet plane.
Re: Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold
So what options do the Castellini's have? Attendance and fan morale seem like the are going to get really, really bad. My guess is they are going to keep the status quo and hope this backlash blows over, and then hope an eventual winner will forgive all sins a la Mike Brown (what a guy to emulate).
The problem is that the "eventual winner" has to actually materialize at some point, and from all appearances the organization is a shambolic mess, so there's no reason to think they could successfully pull off a TB Rays strategy, or even a Marlins strategy. Also it seemed like the Castellini's were (somehow) envisioning that revenue would not plummet, even before Phil opened his big fat mouth and turned fan/media sentiment hostile.
So things are probably going to get probably even uglier. I think we are on a Pirates trajectory.
I think their best course of action, that's remotely realistic, would be to fire Phil ASAP and beg Dick Williams to come back. But even that scenario (replacing incompetent Trust Funder with another Trust Funder who at least does not give the "spent last night doing coke at Scores" vibe that Phil does) is probably too much to ask.
