Re: Reds Hot Stove Rumors (Discussion)
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savafan
A post from our mysterious Twitter friend just moments ago:
JohnnySmith28 Johnny Smith
News coming soon. Reds will have at a minimum of one Coco on the roster, perhaps two
So we deal Sappelt and then sign Coco Crisp? Eww.... I don't want either Coco FWIW.
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Crisp in LF eh? Have to look up his numbers and see how he fared laster few years. I certainly would love that fro in the OF though.
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Joseph
Crisp in LF eh? Have to look up his numbers and see how he fared laster few years. I certainly would love that fro in the OF though.
He hit .264/314/379 last year. He did have 49 stolen bases and a nice 41/65 BB/K Ratio. He hasn't played left field since 2005 though.
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I was wondering who the other Coco was...
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Mario-Rijo
So we deal Sappelt and then sign Coco Crisp? Eww.... I don't want either Coco FWIW.
I don't want Crisp either, but isn't Sappelt's ceiling Coco Crisp?
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Crisp did hit RHP pretty well in Oakland last year and has been worth 2 WAR each of the last few seasons.
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reds44
I don't want Crisp either, but isn't Sappelt's ceiling Coco Crisp?
I kinda wish we had him back in the Gookie, Corky and Pokey days.
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savafan
I kinda wish we had him back in the Gookie, Corky and Pokey days.
I only want him if he promises to keep that awesom fro for the duration of his contract.
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reds44
I don't want Crisp either, but isn't Sappelt's ceiling Coco Crisp?
I think his possibly likely ceiling is a younger version of Crisp but his ultimate ceiling is a better pure hitter IMO and not the all world hacker Crisp is. They both hack at what they like Sappelt is just capable of hacking at a better pitch to hit. Though Coco may have been a better defender/base runner than Dave will ever become but I think overall Sappelt is likely a better overall player when it is said and done.
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mdccclxix
Crisp did hit RHP pretty well in Oakland last year and has been worth 2 WAR each of the last few seasons.
And without looking I believe his luck was quite high last year.
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Mario-Rijo
I think his possibly likely ceiling is a younger version of Crisp but his ultimate ceiling is a better pure hitter IMO and not the all world hacker Crisp is. They both hack at what they like Sappelt is just capable of hacking at a better pitch to hit. Though Coco may have been a better defender/base runner than Dave will ever become but I think overall Sappelt is likely a better overall player when it is said and done.
But Sappelt is also a questionable defender and a flat out bad baserunner. Lets be honest, the only real skill Sappelt has is his ability to hit, and when you're as small as him, your value takes a hit.
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Mario-Rijo
I think his possibly likely ceiling is a younger version of Crisp but his ultimate ceiling is a better pure hitter IMO and not the all world hacker Crisp is. They both hack at what they like Sappelt is just capable of hacking at a better pitch to hit. Though Coco may have been a better defender/base runner than Dave will ever become but I think overall Sappelt is likely a better overall player when it is said and done.
If Crisp signs with Cincinnati, he'll be penciled in as the erstwhile #2 hitter, IMO. (In lineup constructions, that's probably the best spot for him as well.) He's got decent power that will play up in the GABP, decent patience (but his wOBA is almost entirely BA-driven), and should have a very good glove for LF. He can also steal a base and is a switch-hitter, which is something this offense needs, IMO.
Unfotunately, the offense is still short a cleanup hitter hitting between Votto and Bruce. This means Jocketty and company are hitching their wagon, once again, to Bruce's improvement as a hitter, and, to a lesser extent, hoping Mesoraco, Francscio, and Cozart are for real.
Third base is the wildcard here, IMO. If Francisco can hit for power and spell Rolen well enough that he can hit like the first half of 2010, the Reds offense could be very, very good. If not, they'll merely be above average. (That's what Votto presence in your lineup does.)
Phillips 2B
Crisp LF
Votto 1B
Bruce RF
Rolen/ Francisco 3B
Stubbs CF
Mesoraco/ Hanigan C
Cozart/ Theriot SS
The best thing about this lineup is that there aren't any apparent holes (assuming Cozart's power plays and he's willing to take the walks that come along with being the #8 hitter). Too, if Stubbs struggles, Heisey is there to take some starts; they may even form a kind of semi-platoon, especially since Crisp would be a great guy to make up the perceived lost step from Heisey to Stubbs defensively, as Heisey hits RH much more effectively than LF while Stubbs is just the opposite.
Frazier is now a likely fifth OF and backup corner IF bat, along with pop as a PH off the bench. He could take those 3B southpaw starts if Rolen's back or shoulder become problematic, keeping Francisco in against only righties. He could also allow Baker an option at 1B if Votto needs a blow.
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Not real high on Crisp. He was good in his mid 20s but the last three years have seen him injured, putting up part time numbers and finally an OPS below .700 last season. I think he's headed for Willy T territory.
Re: Reds Hot Stove Rumors (Discussion)
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Originally Posted by
savafan
A post from our mysterious Twitter friend just moments ago:
JohnnySmith28 Johnny Smith
News coming soon. Reds will have at a minimum of one Coco on the roster, perhaps two
Have any of his rumors actually come to fruition??/ I can't think of any. Not to mean that there wan't truth when he posted them.
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The Reds 40 Man roster is not showing Brackman on it. Was it ever confirmed that Brackman's deal was a Major league deal?