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I should've seen this one coming. The Reds have finalized the David Weathers deal and cleared room for him on the 40-man roster by designating Brandon Claussen for assignment.
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I should've seen this one coming. The Reds have finalized the David Weathers deal and cleared room for him on the 40-man roster by designating Brandon Claussen for assignment.
Yikes, his arm must not be good.
Claussen's rotator cuff injury has probably been his "problem"(starting with fraying) and why he lost pop. Sad Brandon only got one decent year, should have been more.
Now another youngster steps up the ladder.
TINSTAAPP strikes again! Guess that Boone trade didn't work out so well after all. Wonder if he'll make it through waivers? I'm guessing he will since most people's 40 mans are full after the rule 5.
If he's not on the 40 man -- does he stay in the org and undergo more surgery or is he toast?
Nice guy. Hope the adage about nice guys doesn't hold true in his case.
Though the JoseG deal was the equalizer. I remember when those deals went down, the opposite was ringing true...........Quote:
Originally Posted by RedsManRick
That was a good move. Hopefully he never, ever wears a Reds uniform again.
Claussen was never a major pitching prospect, so the whole there is no such thing as a pitching prospects doesnt hold much water if you want to use him as the example.
He was just the best thing the Yankees had left.Quote:
Originally Posted by dougdirt
No, Claussen was a very highly regarded pitching prospect, Yankee hype or not.
Nothing quite like a little revisionist history, eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by pedro
Yep, except Claussen was good. Before his intial injury, watching him in Columbus, the dude had nasty stuff. 91-94mph heater mixed in with a nasty slider and good cutter(the only decent pitch he had left).Quote:
Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
Big time talent, but his delivery caught up to him.
No, I'm agreeing with Pedro. I really think he was a good prospect. I was goofing on the people saying he was crap to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aronchis
gotcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
I don't think this is much of surprise, he will sign a minor league deal with the Reds as he works his way back from injury.
I hope we see him back in a Reds uniform stronger than ever.
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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
I do too. He was a good prospect at one time.
Good luck, kid.
He was/is/ and a;lways will be DROSS
Except that his one good season trumps anything Milton's done since he's been here.Quote:
Originally Posted by redsupport
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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
Not to mention the fact that. He's younger than Milton and bad mechinics that no one fixed (and proper mind set) lead to a downfall. Claussen wasn't my favorite Reds pitcher, but he wasn't my most hated. Infact, there were days I called for his head and days where I said "..Claussen should start before him..
The word, prospect, is always iffy, good or not. With that said, "Good Luck, Brandon."Quote:
Originally Posted by RFS62
I think he will probably clear waivers and the Reds will assign him to AAA. If he had been tendered he would have gone to arbitration. This way the Reds can sign him to a minor league deal.
I'm glad we were able to hang onto Chad Moeller. :rolleyes: Either Claussen's arm has turned to peanut butter or Wayne Krvisky is stoned again.
. . . or the Reds are trying to sign him to a minor league deal. Yeah, the guy who traded for Brandon Phillips and David Ross must be stoned. :help:Quote:
Originally Posted by Superdude
I'd take a hurt Claussen over a healthy Milton or healthy Lizard everyday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Willy
Maybe I'm still drinkin the prospect hype kool aid, but I think Claussen could eventually be a #3 or #4 for the Reds.
I held out hope for a long time that his stuff would come back. I agree with some of you -- he really was a top prospect. Check out his pitching lines from the minors and the age at which he was putting them up... no fool's gold there.
It's possible that he tried to come back from the TJ too soon, I don't know. But it just points out that not everyone makes it all the way back soon, or at all.
Claussen is done. Maybe some day he will make it as a LH specialist but don't count on it.
So if we brought Boone back and signed him to a minimal contract wouldnt that kinda be like a do over???:rolleyes:
Is it at all possible that he will be given a minor league assignment?
Claussen had always shown a lot of promise in the Minors. I know when he first came over to the Reds he was a high strikeout pitcher. He seemed to be inconsistent. A typical game, he'd be on for 5 innings, but have 1 bad one. I was hoping that he'd continue to make strides in his development along side Harang...but he seemed to have a lot of set backs.
I sure hope he is able to recover and end up back with the club. Lance posted an article about Claussen from his hometown news paper about a month ago. It reflected the sentiments of many of the posters here about what a nice human being he is. Good luck Claussen.
All the best to him. I was pulling for him to recover. Hope he makes it back to the bigs someday...
At least 50/50. If he had been non-tendered, he'd be a FA and gone. Now we have 10 days to determine trade interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hap
If there is none, they put him on waivers. If he clears, he goes to minors for Reds.
Looks like BC won't be Josh Hamilton's roomie
His 2001 season in AA really put him on the map as a legit prospect.
21 games, 131 ip, 101 h, 151 k, 55 bb, 2.13 ERA....If the Reds had someone like that, we'd be drooling over him and calling him a great prospect.
In this market, I don't think he'll clear. Someone will take a chance on him as a cheap 3rd starter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gallen5862
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Originally Posted by TeamSelig
I keep thinking that we're missing the folks who said Paul Wilson would be pitching after the all star break (not you, some others).
Anyway, he may be toast, but someone will take a chance on him just like someone took a chance on Ryan Dempster.
I'm glad I got to watch him pitch a great game, in person, last year against the Phillies. I guess the shots wore off. Good luck and I hope he makes his way back when he is healthy.
Rotoworld is saying Claussen was non-tendered (along with Miguel Perez):
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Reds non-tendered LHP Brandon Claussen.
All 28 non-tenders can now be found below. Obviously, the Reds' move to designate Claussen for assignment Tuesday was just a stall tactic. This is another loophole MLB should close one of these years. It's a silly rule that players like Claussen should have to go through waivers every other time of year, but not for one day in December. Maybe it makes sense for arbitration-eligible players, but those without the service time should be subject to the waiver wire just like they would be at any other time. The Reds now have a better chance of keeping Claussen than they would have otherwise. Still, someone should trump them with a guaranteed contract.
oh please.Quote:
Originally Posted by camisadelgolf
I guess that means he was stone sober when he acquired Joe Freaking Mays too.:bang:
I don't understand your point, and I'm not sure you understand mine. Anyway, I don't think the idea of signing Mays was a bad idea (a groundball pitcher coming to a new league for cheap)--it was just one of those things that didn't work out. All I'm trying to say is that Superdude's criticism was uncalled for, seeing as how Way-K went about the Claussen release in the smartest way possible, in my opinion.
Oh, i agree that DFA was the way to go over a non-tender.
But on no planet, in no universe was signing Joe Mays a good idea. not even in principle. Dude sucked in KC! A 10.27 ERA in six games started there. He was done in 2002. Yes, he was cheap. There was a reason for that. He was awful. Flat out awful. 7 games with the Reds was 7 too many, and 4 starts?
oy.
What I get tired of is reading about the three transactions Krivsky got right and anointing him a genius because of it. Especially getting Phillips. I read the same thing: "...29 other teams passed on him." So what? maybe those teams felt ok at 2B? The Reds certainly weren't. Not with Tony Womack running around with a wishbone C on his cap.
Ross was dumb luck, and Arroyo was a right fit with Boston who had no place for him in their rotation. At least at the time of the trade.
DFA'ing Claussen was the right move to remove him from the 40 man roster. However, it wasn't necessary, because signing Chad Moeller wasn't necessary.