Originally Posted by
TRF
ok a, why is the first line a question? and B, it pretty much made sense to everyone who looked at things objectively.
He has NOT shown in each of the past 4 years anything but he was a good hitting prospect with no power in college. He belted a combined 8 HR's in college in 707 PA's. India hit 31 in 818 PA's.
So right off the bat we know one guy has power, one does not.
Madrigal's NCAA numbers: .361 .422 .502 .923
India's NCAA numbers: .310 .411 .530 .941
Madrigal has a bit better hit tool, India more power. Similar OBP with a slight edge to Madrigal. Overall, India has the better numbers.
So lets shift to pro ball. It's an easy apples to apple comparison. These guys are the same age drafted the same year.
Madrigal Career minors numbers: .307 .368 .396 .765
India Career minors numbers: .250 .359 .409 .768
Lets face it, the OPS difference is too nominal to even debate, so lets look at the components instead. India's numbers are less prone to slump than Madrigal. Madrigal needs the hits to get on base where India's BB/9 shows he know what not to swing at.
Lets switch to 2019 only then, to see if the differences continue in their most recent numbers.
Madrigal 2 levels, A+ AA: .308 .375 .418 .793
India 2 levels, A+ AA: .254 .349 .398 .747
Madrigal has the edge here for two reasons: He was aggressively promoted out of the Carolina League into the SL, where India was developing longer in the pitcher friendly FSL. His sample in AA is only 7 games, 31 PA's. So he's still getting his feet wet at that level and he's struggling a bit.
Neither guy being promoted when they were was anything more than organizational philosophy. The Reds, historically, do not rush prospects. I cannot say I have any idea what the White Sox do.
I don't think it is anywhere near clear cut that Madrigal has out performed India. He's got 20 fewer minor league career PA's and 31 more hits. That's good. But he has 38 career BB's to India's 70. He's got 3 career HR's to India's 14.
Going forward, two guys, the same age and experience. Both from top baseball conferences in college. And the numbers posted as professionals to date, I'd take India over Madrigal.
One last thing. Ken Griffey Jr. was a generational talent. Mike Trout is one.
Nick Madrigal couldn't carry their jocks. And you know it.