9/30/2007 Reds vs Cubs Last Game

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Originally Posted by Matt700wlw

It amazes me how this team plays so much better without pressure...

Put pressure on them, and they crumble...


That mentality has to change.

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I think that's a pretty big assumption. You don;t really know if "pressure" has anything to do with it.

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Originally Posted by mth123

Bailey ends the season with 45.333 Innings in the Majors and 75.333 innings in the minors.

That seems to be enough to hold down a number 5 spot should he step forward in the spring.

The innings he got in these 3 starts were very important for 2008 IMO.

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Bailey needs to be in the rotation next year. For all his problems, it makes more sense for him to be at Cincy than elsewhere. He's had quite a bit of major league ball this year, the best way for him to progress is to keep seeing NL hitting.

I wouldn't call him a number 5 starter though. How many of those can you have? If it implies that he'll get skipped on off days, I wouldn't do that. Homer for number 4.

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Originally Posted by Kc61

Bailey needs to be in the rotation next year. For all his problems, it makes more sense for him to be at Cincy than elsewhere. He's had quite a bit of major league ball this year, the best way for him to progress is to keep seeing NL hitting.

I wouldn't call him a number 5 starter though. How many of those can you have? If it implies that he'll get skipped on off days, I wouldn't do that. Homer for number 4.

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I buy into the 30 inning per year increase theory for pitchers under 25. I think Homer should have his 2008 inning load capped somewhere between 150 and 160. If he is in the majors, I hope he is handled with that in mind and being a number five who skips a start occasionally is the best way IMO. Belisle took a big inning jump in 2007 and has his floor under him now, let him be number 4 unless he totally tanks (possible). Of course a solid vet needs to be brought in somehow as a number 2 or 3.

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Originally Posted by Matt700wlw

It amazes me how this team plays so much better without pressure...

Put pressure on them, and they crumble...


That mentality has to change.

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They didn't have any presure on them for most of the month and went 10-17

They just stink, nothing more then that :D

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Originally Posted by Kc61

Bailey needs to be in the rotation next year. For all his problems, it makes more sense for him to be at Cincy than elsewhere. He's had quite a bit of major league ball this year, the best way for him to progress is to keep seeing NL hitting.

I wouldn't call him a number 5 starter though. How many of those can you have? If it implies that he'll get skipped on off days, I wouldn't do that. Homer for number 4.

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I don't think he's ready myself. I'd rather he actually have at least a half year of domination at AAA. He's yet to do that.

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Originally Posted by KronoRed

They didn't have any presure on them for most of the month and went 10-17

They just stink, nothing more then that :D

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Maybe that's it...

I was hoping there was a better reason.

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Originally Posted by Matt700wlw

Maybe that's it...

I was hoping there was a better reason.

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Well, they've also been missing their entire starting OF for a while now.

That doesn't help either...

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Originally Posted by pedro

Well, they've also been missing their entire starting OF for a while now.

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Nah.. they should win every time even if guys are hurt.

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Originally Posted by westofyou

Nah.. they should win every time even if guys are hurt.

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Otherwise they ain't being intense enough.

You know who'd get these guys in shape. Patton.

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Phillies now up 5-1.

And that....as they say....is that.

At least as a Reds' fan, I knew we weren't going anyway. If I were a Mets fan, I'd be 10 x more upset after today.

Well, unless the Astros somehow manage to lose this afternoon, it's 5th place in a very sad division. Open up the wallet Bob.

Bob said emphatically to Marty and the boys before the broadcast that things WILL be better in 2008.


I think he means it....it should be an interesting offseason