Eric Jagers named new Asst Pitching Coach
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Kyle Boddy
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Extremely proud of
@ericjagers
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Bobby Nightengale
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Kyle Boddy on Eric Jagers earlier this year: "He’s the best in the world at pitch design, technical capacity. That’s Eric Jagers. Anything that has to do with the technical side of pitching, he’s the best in the world." #Reds
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Jager bombs all around :beerme:
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Did Eric Jagielo change his name?
If so, that's two assistant pitching coaches from the same deal.
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M2
Did Eric Jagielo change his name?
If so, that's two assistant pitching coaches from the same deal.
as God as my witness I thought same thing for at least the first seconds after I read this.
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The optimist in me hopes this is some sort of “Hey Trevor... we just got even more tech savvy” move, but in my heart I know somebody else will back a dump truck full of $10,000 bills (you know, the ones with all the US Presidents on it having a party... Jimmy Carter was passed out on the couch) up to his house and he’ll have a super hard time ever turning the money down.
But anyway, I’m glad to see that Dick’s departure has not seen The Reds abandoning their new found pitching analytical acumen.
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The optimist in me hopes this is some sort of “Hey Trevor... we just got even more tech savvy” move, but in my heart I know somebody else will back a dump truck full of $10,000 bills (you know, the ones with all the US Presidents on it having a party... Jimmy Carter was passed out on the couch) up to his house and he’ll have a super hard time ever turning the money down.
But anyway, I’m glad to see that Dick’s departure has not seen The Reds abandoning their new found pitching analytical acumen.
It was probably Krall's initiative all along.
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It was probably Krall's initiative all along.
It’s certainly a possibility... maybe Krall was doing 95% of the work to begin with. Might explain why Dick wasn’t replaced upon his resignation.
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It’s certainly a possibility... maybe Krall was doing 95% of the work to begin with. Might explain why Dick wasn’t replaced upon his resignation.
That's been my working theory. The organization's entire M.O. seemed to switch right around the time Krall got elevated to GM.
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That's been my working theory. The organization's entire M.O. seemed to switch right around the time Krall got elevated to GM.
I'm beginning to wonder if Dick Williams wasn't just a public figure meant to take heat for allowing a relatively unknown Nick Krall to make moves without blame. For all I know Dick Williams saw Nick Krall as a genius and told him to make the plan and he'd get it implemented, until Krall had enough pull with the owners to let Williams get out of the way.
Kind of like Billy Beane and whatever Jonah Hill's character was named in the Moneyball movie.
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podgejeff_
I'm beginning to wonder if Dick Williams wasn't just a public figure meant to take heat for allowing a relatively unknown Nick Krall to make moves without blame. For all I know Dick Williams saw Nick Krall as a genius and told him to make the plan and he'd get it implemented, until Krall had enough pull with the owners to let Williams get out of the way.
Kind of like Billy Beane and whatever Jonah Hill's character was named in the Moneyball movie.
Seemed like Williams fumbled around for two years and then Krall emerged as the one with all the ideas.
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Jager bombs all around :beerme:
Is that what we are going to call it when a Reds pitcher gives up a HR?
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podgejeff_
I'm beginning to wonder if Dick Williams wasn't just a public figure meant to take heat for allowing a relatively unknown Nick Krall to make moves without blame. For all I know Dick Williams saw Nick Krall as a genius and told him to make the plan and he'd get it implemented, until Krall had enough pull with the owners to let Williams get out of the way.
Kind of like Billy Beane and whatever Jonah Hill's character was named in the Moneyball movie.
I thought this was obvious. Williams supported the concept of analytics, but he wasn't as much of a "baseball" guy as anyone else in his profession. He was clearly listening to Krall and others the entire time.
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Eric Jagers talks pitching.
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/eric-jagers-talks-pitching/
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We’re beginning to peel back the layers of metric-based evaluation. It used to be ‘high spin, throw up in the zone,’ and we found out that wasn’t always true, and that how you spin it is pretty important. Spin direction and true spin reign supreme there. Here’s an example for a fastball profile: An individual with much lower spin rate, but a spin direction closer to 12:00 — high spin efficiency/active spin — can achieve significantly higher vertical break values than an individual who generates a much higher spin rate, but a spin direction further from 12:00 — say, closer to 3:00 or 9:00 and/or less spin efficiency/active spin). We’re learning how little we know about the things thought we already had solved.
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High praise for DeLeon as well.