Lineup with Moustakas?

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12-03-2019, 06:54 PM
Bourgeois Zee

Lineup with Moustakas?

Assuming no other free agents or signings, what does your batting lineup look like?

I've got:

1. Winker/ Ervin LF
2. Votto 1B
3. Suarez 3B
4. Moustakas 2B
5. Aquino RF
6. Senzel CF
7. Galvis SS
8. Barnali C

Comments:
Nice balance left to right, with power throughout and OBP at the top. There is absolutely no team speed-- they might not get 30 SB with this squad. SS is obviously the weak sister here, but if Aquino's not for real, he'll torpedo the lineup nearly all by himself. Senzel is perhaps the biggest key to the Reds' 2020 hopes. If he approaches his minor league numbers-- a cumulative .312/ .388/ .508/ .895-- they'll be in the division hunt all season. If not, they could be a .500 team.

What you got?
12-03-2019, 06:56 PM
JCM11

Re: Lineup with Moustakas?

Getting a lead off hitter with good on base skills and some speed has to be the biggest need for the offense now. The backup option would be Senzel hitting lead off if we can land another middle of the order bat.
12-03-2019, 06:57 PM
DocRed

Re: Lineup with Moustakas?

Sounds about right although some would swap Senzel for Winkvin
12-03-2019, 07:01 PM
Bourgeois Zee

Re: Lineup with Moustakas?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DocRed

Sounds about right although some would swap Senzel for Winkvin

I get that.

I chose the OBP over Senzel's speed and upside.

But I'm willing to be persuaded.
12-03-2019, 07:10 PM
Sparky

Re: Lineup with Moustakas?

Sorry but I want to assume.

1. Lindor - SS
2. Castellanos - RF
3. Moustakes - 2B
4. Suarez - 3B
5. Winker - LF
6. Senzel - CF
7. Votto - 1B
8. Barnhart - C
12-03-2019, 07:11 PM
Kc61

Re: Lineup with Moustakas?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCM11

Getting a lead off hitter with good on base skills and some speed has to be the biggest need for the offense now. The backup option would be Senzel hitting lead off if we can land another middle of the order bat.

The most obvious guy on the market to fill the precise need is Marte.

Marte in CF. Senzel moves over to LF. Winker is traded, probably in the Marte deal.

Adds speed, OBP, more of a “true” CFer. Can lead off.

I guess Lindor too, but Marte probably more readily obtainable. I think Bucs must trade him and definitely will. Marte is in the $11-12 million range per year, Reds can handle that.
12-04-2019, 12:30 AM
RedEye

Re: Lineup with Moustakas?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparky

1. Lindor - SS
2. Castellanos - RF
3. Moustakes - 2B
4. Suarez - 3B
5. Winker - LF
6. Senzel - CF
7. Votto - 1B
8. Barnhart - C

That line up looks like it might be moustake prone to me...
12-04-2019, 05:25 AM
GADawg

Re: Lineup with Moustakas?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparky

Sorry but I want to assume.

1. Lindor - SS
2. Castellanos - RF
3. Moustakes - 2B
4. Suarez - 3B
5. Winker - LF
6. Senzel - CF
7. Votto - 1B
8. Barnhart - C

That lineup would make Joey change his batting stance and drink black coffee
12-04-2019, 11:27 AM
Puffy

Re: Lineup with Moustakas?

1. Senzel CF
2. Votto 1B
3. Suarez 3B
4. Moose 2B
5. Haniger LF
6. Narvaez C
7. Aquino RF
8. Galvis SS

You're welcome.
12-04-2019, 11:33 AM
WrongVerb

Re: Lineup with Moustakas?

CF Senzel
SS Seager/Story/Lindor/Baez
3b Suarez
2b Moustakas
1b Votto
RF Aquino
LF Winker
CA Barnhart
12-04-2019, 12:06 PM
adkindo

Re: Lineup with Moustakas?

Winker at the top is problematic....he gets on base, but guy is just too slow.
12-04-2019, 12:56 PM
Kc61

Re: Lineup with Moustakas?

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrongVerb

CF Senzel
SS Seager/Story/Lindor/Baez
3b Suarez
2b Moustakas
1b Votto
RF Aquino
LF Winker
CA Barnhart

Dusty?
12-04-2019, 01:05 PM
RED VAN HOT

Re: Lineup with Moustakas?

Different every day.
12-04-2019, 02:06 PM
allpurpose

Re: Lineup with Moustakas?

CF/Me
SS/Me
1st/Me
3rd/Me
2nd/Me
RF/Me
LF/Me
C/Me

I'm not claiming my 60 year old carcass would be worth a hoot, but what the heck..I still have extremely unrealistic fantasies.. :thumbup:
Hey! and there's still my blazing 23 mph fastball that bounces across home plate!

Still not sold? I'd be a LOT cheaper than anyone on any MLB roster..
12-04-2019, 08:40 PM
mth123

Re: Lineup with Moustakas?

Fingers Crossed Hopefully (Senzel)
Fingers Crossed Skeptically (Votto)
Suarez
Moustakas
Winker/Ervin
Ugh! (Aquino)
Ugh!! (Barnhart)
Ugh!!! (Galvis)
12-04-2019, 08:42 PM
DocRed

Re: Lineup with Moustakas?

Quote:

Originally Posted by adkindo

Winker at the top is problematic....he gets on base, but guy is just too slow.

Well since we don't have Ricky Henderson on this team you are going to have to make some concessions...
12-04-2019, 08:53 PM
WrongVerb

Re: Lineup with Moustakas?

Don't sleep on Aquino. He went into a slump to begin September as the league finally adjusted to him. But he adjusted back by the middle of the month and had over .800 OPS the final two weeks.
12-04-2019, 10:33 PM
mth123

Re: Lineup with Moustakas?

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrongVerb

Don't sleep on Aquino. He went into a slump to begin September as the league finally adjusted to him. But he adjusted back by the middle of the month and had over .800 OPS the final two weeks.

I actually think it's smart for the Reds to give Aquino a full shot in RF and see if he can become the second coming of Jermaine Dye. But the downside risk is huge and the Reds can't win if any one of the line-up question marks (Aquino, Votto, and Senzel) come up negative at this point. I'd feel a lot better if they removed the two known drags on the offense from the equation and replaced them with players who at least had the potential to be above average. I just don't think a serious contender can run a line-up out there with three everyday players whose OPS+ will be in the below 90 range. I think that is very possible with Aquino and almost a sure thing with Barnhart and Galvis. I don't think Senzel and Votto are certain to be better than that either to be honest. The Reds need more "likely to be at least average" production to lengthen the line-up. I think that is way more important than adding a single high end bat like Betts or Lindor, though one of them would certainly be welcome. This team needs to upgrade their poor line-up spots with 3 guys who can OPS+ somewhere between 100 and 110 more than they need one guy who might OPS+ over 150.