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Scheb walks after working a full count.
1 on, nobody down
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Nice 4th inning for Castillo
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George Grande has been a pleasant change in the booth tonight.
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The Operator
There is something inherently satisfying about a pitcher going deep into games and especially completing the whole thing.
I think a big part of it in addition to stricter pitch counts is the fact that pitchers are K'ing batters a lot more now. I've been surprised to look back at some of the stats of pretty good pitchers in the past and outside of some of the true greats, a lot of pitchers just didn't K that many guys back in the day.
I love me some K's but they do rack up a pitch count.
Going back to the 1960s and 1970s, there were some great strikeout pitchers then too.
They were just trained differently. They were expected to be workhorses.
The big difference is money. Pitchers get paid so much today that teams don't want to risk overuse and injury.
The ironic thing is that there are probably more injuries now than before.
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Castillo's night is over after 4 innings.
Wojo enters in the 5th.
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Big Klu
George Grande has been a pleasant change in the booth tonight.
Agreed. Less "UN-BELIEV-ABLE"'s is always a good thing.
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Not sure what Chris was looking at, Pensacola and Dayton are all playoff bound.
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Kc61
The ironic thing is that there are probably more injuries now than before.
I think injuries get reported more now. Back when players didn't make much money and had to work side jobs in the offseason they had reasons to not tell anyone they were injured.
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Scoot triples w/ HR interference by Cutch.
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Cutch can't make the catch but takes a HR away from Gennett and it's a triple instead.
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Raisor
I think injuries get reported more now. Back when players didn't make much money and had to work side jobs in the offseason they had reasons to not tell anyone they were injured.
Agree. But today kids are pitching competitively, with work loads, very young. I think that has a role in the injuries, too.
The whole game has changed over the years, rather dramatically. The shorter starts, the bullpens today with 100 MPH guys, going with 12-13 pitchers, four man benches.
Very different. Incredible athletes today, guys like Billy Hamilton, Aroldis Chapman. Different, in some ways better, in some ways worse.
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A couple of generations ago, the guys who got injured didn't come back. Now we're constantly hearing about the comings and goings.
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I'm in a hotel in High Point, NC with crappy internet. Can't stream the game and even RZ won't work. Good to see a 5-2 lead, but why did Luis ony go 4?
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BCubb2003
A couple of generations ago, the guys who got injured didn't come back. Now we're constantly hearing about the comings and goings.
But even years ago, you knew about the star players. If Marichal, Gibson, Koufax or Drysdale got hurt, you knew, it was well publicized. Then Seaver, Carleton, etc.
And if you followed a team, like I followed the Reds, you would know the injuries. There was no internet, so the knowledge wasn't as widespread, true.
Of course, with some of those guys, they wouldn't miss a turn anyway. They were workhorses expected to pitch every turn.
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I'm in a hotel in High Point, NC with crappy internet. Can't stream the game and even RZ won't work. Good to see a 5-2 lead, but why did Luis ony go 4?
He had 89'ish pitches, 3 guys had 33+ of them, not particularly sharp, just missing on most of his pitches. He's young, glad they got him out of there w/ minimal damage. Baby steps..