WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread...
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I thought he did a great job in his promo segment with Jericho. It was a really little thing, but the way he turned Enzo's call-response line about him being 7 foot tall into his own line was great. The fact that he's able to hold on his own while Enzo is out is fantastic, and it's going to make Enzo's return that much more dynamic.
My other thought on RAW is how sick I am of the Usos. I know they're crazy-over with the kids, but they're such a generic team (to that point: even Mauro Ranallo really doesn't bother learning to tell them apart when he calls their matches). If the WWE is going to do "The Family" v. "The (We-Can't-Say-"Bullet"-For-Legal-Reasons) Club" that builds into something, I'd really like to see them get a gimmick update or at least add an edge to them of some sort.
I think there's a lot of money and good TV that could come from a slow-build that ends with a Survivor Series match between The Family (Reigns, Jimmy Uso, Jey Uso, Samoa Joe, and maybe Dean Ambrose) v. The Club (AJ Styles, Karl Anderson, Doc Gallows, Finn Balor and maybe someone like Seth Rollins), but they can't have 40% of Roman's team being goofballs in face paint.
Picking up from the last thread....
05-10-2016, 02:38 PM
cincrazy
WWE problems (?) #2
Well since the start of the original thread around two years ago, I'd say the company is in a better place. I've gotta be honest, I knew there were some wrestling fans on here, but I'm shocked the original thread cleared 1,000 posts, and kind of giddy about it in a totally nerdtastic way.
I'm excited for the Extreme Rules PPV. I think Roman Reigns vs Styles has really ratcheted up in intensity, and both Styles and Reigns are starting to evolve in really cool ways. Roman has been a killing machine and less of a Cena-clone, and it's done wonders for his character, despite the boos he still hears.
Rollins and Cena will be back soon, maybe Orton, Lesnar in time for Summerslam, Wyatt in a few weeks... this roster's depth is getting impressive. That's not to mention the eventual ascension of Balor to the main roster. It's a fun time to be a wrestling fan, let's hope creative doesn't screw it up!
Now let's get another 1,000 posts :).
05-10-2016, 06:01 PM
Bourgeois Zee
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
Balor is the one I'm most interested in.
He and Styles as either heels pulling a Four-Horseman-esque stable (with the Gallows/ Anderson tag-team) or in a long-term feud would draw heat from marks and smarks, for sure.
05-10-2016, 10:21 PM
Tom Servo
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
I'm digging the Reigns vs. Styles feud, it's probably my favorite WWE Title feud since Bryan vs. Punk in 2012.
05-11-2016, 12:51 PM
Raisor
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
WWE let Steve Lombardi go after 33 years with the company.
05-12-2016, 07:27 PM
cincrazy
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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WWE let Steve Lombardi go after 33 years with the company.
Hopefully Redszone takes notes and moves on from you.
And trim your stupid beard.
05-13-2016, 01:14 PM
Raisor
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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Originally Posted by cincrazy
Hopefully Redszone takes notes and moves on from you.
And trim your stupid beard.
Dude, stop posting pictures of yourself on Facebook. You look like a serial killer.
05-13-2016, 02:32 PM
TRF
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
I'm imaging the both of you on the old Georgia Championship Wrestling set, screaming at Tony Shiavone as one of you attacks the other from behind.
Prolly Raisor... he's sneaky like that.
05-13-2016, 03:01 PM
Raisor
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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I'm imaging the both of you on the old Georgia Championship Wrestling set, screaming at Tony Shiavone as one of you attacks the other from behind.
Prolly Raisor... he's sneaky like that.
David Crockett not Tony Jabroni
05-13-2016, 03:05 PM
TRF
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
I'll never forget hearing the Road Warriors scream at Shiavone...
"We snack on danger and dine on death!"
05-13-2016, 03:07 PM
Raisor
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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I'll never forget hearing the Road Warriors scream at Shiavone...
"We snack on danger and dine on death!"
"...and dead men don't make money"
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By the way, Tony does PBP for the Braves AAA team in Gwinnett
05-13-2016, 03:32 PM
Tom Servo
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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By the way, Tony does PBP for the Braves AAA team in Gwinnett
(why was the Yeti a Mummy?)
05-13-2016, 04:14 PM
TRF
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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"...and dead men don't make money"
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By the way, Tony does PBP for the Braves AAA team in Gwinnett
Maybe its because I was about 12 when I watched him for the first time, but I always liked him. If nothing else, he was into it.
Which is more than I can say for the stiffs on RAW. Cole is... I can't even.
05-13-2016, 05:23 PM
cincrazy
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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Originally Posted by TRF
I'm imaging the both of you on the old Georgia Championship Wrestling set, screaming at Tony Shiavone as one of you attacks the other from behind.
Prolly Raisor... he's sneaky like that.
Nah I'd lure Raisor into the parking lot for an NWO style beatdown. But eventually we would team up and be unstoppable. Only after he's seen the error of his ways.
05-13-2016, 06:45 PM
Raisor
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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Nah I'd lure Raisor into the parking lot for an NWO style beatdown. But eventually we would team up and be unstoppable. Only after he's seen the error of his ways.
I'm not sure anyone would buy me as a heel.
I'm too pretty.
05-14-2016, 04:09 PM
Slyder
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
Can I be James Cornette and hit people with tennis rackets?
05-14-2016, 05:15 PM
Raisor
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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Can I be James Cornette and hit people with tennis rackets?
Only if you can manage the Midnight Express.
Can you?
05-14-2016, 06:59 PM
gilpdawg
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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Maybe its because I was about 12 when I watched him for the first time, but I always liked him. If nothing else, he was into it.
Which is more than I can say for the stiffs on RAW. Cole is... I can't even.
Tony was fine until the Bischoff era when everything was "the greatest night ever" stuff. Tony was on Ross's podcast and even he cringed at that stuff.
They really should shake up the announce teams right now. Put Mauro and King on Raw. King has really gotten betts since he's been away from Cole and JBL.
05-14-2016, 09:23 PM
Slyder
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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Originally Posted by gilpdawg
Tony was fine until the Bischoff era when everything was "the greatest night ever" stuff. Tony was on Ross's podcast and even he cringed at that stuff.
They really should shake up the announce teams right now. Put Mauro and King on Raw. King has really gotten betts since he's been away from Cole and JBL.
I think its funner for Lawler because he has someone to work with that isn't just a puppet, like JR again. Plus Smackdown's taped so they could always voice over it again if needed.
05-14-2016, 11:15 PM
sdwagers
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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Originally Posted by Raisor
David Crockett not Tony Jabroni
Crockett "get him" , "whip him like a dog" or " Yeeeesss" ... Depending on what the baby faces were doing that week in the ring.
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(why was the Yeti a Mummy?)
It's the Yet-Tay!
05-14-2016, 11:16 PM
sdwagers
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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Maybe its because I was about 12 when I watched him for the first time, but I always liked him. If nothing else, he was into it.
Which is more than I can say for the stiffs on RAW. Cole is... I can't even.
I can't stand Cole. War correspondent or not with professional journalism experience.
Give me Mauro.. Heck give me Ultramantis Black and Bryce Remburg from Chikara.
05-14-2016, 11:17 PM
sdwagers
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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Can I be James Cornette and hit people with tennis rackets?
Best shoot interviews ever out there. His podcast is great when he's not talking politics or about Kenny Bolin.
05-15-2016, 01:49 PM
Javy Pornstache
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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I can't stand Cole. War correspondent or not with professional journalism experience.
Give me Mauro.. Heck give me Ultramantis Black and Bryce Remburg from Chikara.
David Crockett was amazing, I knew he got lots of heat for being awful and nepotism charges back in the day but how much better would Raw be with a guy like Crockett totally marking out and putting over babyfaces and deriding heels for their reprehensible actions. Instead of puppet Cole, Vince's avatar JBL and completely monotone Saxton never getting anything over and only burying stuff if they do try to cast an opinion.
Re: Mauro. He's clearly the best but I say keep him on Smackdown. There's a reason he's still being himself on WWE TV - Vince doesn't produce Smackdown, Hunter does. You'd get very crappy watered down Mauro on Raw I'm sure with Vince controlling his brainwaves the way he has deadened Cole's brain and soul all these years!
05-15-2016, 05:08 PM
sdwagers
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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Originally Posted by Javy Pornstache
David Crockett was amazing, I knew he got lots of heat for being awful and nepotism charges back in the day but how much better would Raw be with a guy like Crockett totally marking out and putting over babyfaces and deriding heels for their reprehensible actions. Instead of puppet Cole, Vince's avatar JBL and completely monotone Saxton never getting anything over and only burying stuff if they do try to cast an opinion.
Re: Mauro. He's clearly the best but I say keep him on Smackdown. There's a reason he's still being himself on WWE TV - Vince doesn't produce Smackdown, Hunter does. You'd get very crappy watered down Mauro on Raw I'm sure with Vince controlling his brainwaves the way he has deadened Cole's brain and soul all these years!
Dont get me wrong - I love me some David Crockett. The attack he took from Nikita Koloff.... I thought he was dead.
I 'd never thought I 'd be pushing for anyone from the Kliq - let alone HHH to run the WWE- but NXT has proven HHH has got what it takes. Of course though - he learned from Dusty Rhodes and admits it. Vince is becoming Vern Gagne 2.0 ... When does he do the Wrestlerock Rumble.
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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Supposedly Joey Styles works for WWE in some administrative capacity. That's like having American Pharoah in your barn and using him as a lead pony.
I believe Joey is the head of the "dot-com" division of WWE. If memory serves me correctly, that was at one time Shane McMahon's post in the corporate structure. A nice job I'm sure, but quite a number of pegs below Stephanie in the pecking order, no doubt.
05-16-2016, 01:37 PM
sdwagers
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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I believe Joey is the head of the "dot-com" division of WWE. If memory serves me correctly, that was at one time Shane McMahon's post in the corporate structure. A nice job I'm sure, but quite a number of pegs below Stephanie in the pecking order, no doubt.
Styles hosted the Paul Heyman special on the network, and yes he's working the .com portion of WWE. From what I 'm told - he's got no interest in being on camera for Vince on RAW.
05-16-2016, 01:43 PM
Caveat Emperor
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Styles hosted the Paul Heyman special on the network, and yes he's working the .com portion of WWE. From what I 'm told - he's got no interest in being on camera for Vince on RAW.
Vince is a nightmare on announcers -- the RAW commentary team is the way it is because he wants it to be that way. Everything said is micromanaged to all hell. At this point, Cole's just given up.
05-16-2016, 01:46 PM
Tom Servo
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
Joey Styles was always overrated.
Don't @ me
05-16-2016, 02:28 PM
Caveat Emperor
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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Originally Posted by Tom Servo
Joey Styles was always overrated.
Don't @ me
Joey Styles, like most of ECW, was great in the moment it existed back in the 90s -- not much of their product (outside of some PPV matches) has aged well at all.
05-17-2016, 08:52 AM
sdwagers
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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Originally Posted by Tom Servo
Joey Styles was always overrated.
Don't @ me
tend to agree. One line "Oh my God" .... over and over again...
though when Primo and Epico hit their version (The Shining Star) of the Eliminators finisher "Total Elimination"... I could hear Styles screaming "Total Elimination" over and over.
05-22-2016, 12:12 PM
cincrazy
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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Vince is a nightmare on announcers -- the RAW commentary team is the way it is because he wants it to be that way. Everything said is micromanaged to all hell. At this point, Cole's just given up.
And it's so obvious too. When Roman appeared last week, JBL said something to the effect of "Whether you love him or hate him, he gets a reaction out of you!" So obviously a Vince line.
In new news, Cody Rhodes asked for his release yesterday. It's being reported both Cody and Goldust left Smackdown before they started taping. Maybe Goldie was just being there for his brother, or maybe he asked for his release too. Hard to tell. It's a damn shame they couldn't do more with Cody, especially after 2013 when he feuded with the Authority. The Stardust character was always a disservice to the man.
05-22-2016, 02:03 PM
Caveat Emperor
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
With all the new blood pushing through NXT, there just isn't room on the card for a lot of these guys. I wouldn't be surprised to see guys like Dolph Ziggler follow -- they can make good money on the indys and have a way less hectic travel schedule.
05-22-2016, 03:30 PM
Bourgeois Zee
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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With all the new blood pushing through NXT, there just isn't room on the card for a lot of these guys. I wouldn't be surprised to see guys like Dolph Ziggler follow -- they can make good money on the indys and have a way less hectic travel schedule.
Ziggler in New Japan would be (perhaps) better than Styles in New Japan.
That's a lot more travel though. (Kind of.)
05-22-2016, 03:42 PM
Slyder
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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With all the new blood pushing through NXT, there just isn't room on the card for a lot of these guys. I wouldn't be surprised to see guys like Dolph Ziggler follow -- they can make good money on the indys and have a way less hectic travel schedule.
Ziggler just reupped not to long ago for a multi year deal, because he had talked about leaving. I think you'll see Ziggler more as that "curtain jerker face" that gets new heels started and spend more time in movie filming.
05-22-2016, 05:32 PM
Bourgeois Zee
Re: WWE Talk Pt. II: It's not a good thread, it's not a bad thread, it's THE thread..
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Ziggler just reupped not to long ago for a multi year deal, because he had talked about leaving. I think you'll see Ziggler more as that "curtain jerker face" that gets new heels started and spend more time in movie filming.
I'd like to see him go the "Mr. Perfect" anti-hero route with a tag-team partner (with Tyler Breeze perhaps or Zack Ryder) and branch out from there.
