I would be onboard with starting the rookie from Kansas this week on the right side....he can't be worse than Johnson was at guard.
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I would be onboard with starting the rookie from Kansas this week on the right side....he can't be worse than Johnson was at guard.
How bad are the Bengals, specifically their Offensive and Defensive Lines?
They are so bad that they are 6.5-point underdogs to a horrible Philadelphia team that gave up 8 sacks to the Redskins and lost more Offensive Linemen in Game 2. Philadelphia has no Wide Receivers other than DeSean Jackson and Reagor. They do have excellent Tight Ends in Goedert and Ertz, but their Quarterback is doing as poorly as his Rookie season four years ago.
They are so bad, that even though the Bengals' Secondary is 3rd best in the NFL as far as fewest fantasy points given up to Wide Receivers (which is Receptions, Total Yards and Touchdowns), the 3rd best ranking is as much to do with the Chargers and Browns ability to run at will on them making it unnecessary to throw to Wide Receivers. I don't know what it is, but I imagine the Bengals are giving up more than 5.5 yards per rushing attempt, meaning that they are consistently getting into the 2nd level.
They are so bad that their pass-rush is almost non-existent. They have to be dead last in the NFL in QB pressure percentage.
Of course, I could have just said what was said back in March of 2019,..."Any Offensive Line that features (when you pay a Right Tackle $8M per year, you are featuring him) Bobby Hart as their best Lineman has got to be the worst Offensive Line in the entire NFL." That he hasn't been replaced since then and that he was even signed at the time makes the Ownership the absolute worst of any franchise in the NFL.
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I truly wish Bobby Hart would slip in the bathtub. The reason Hart never gets hurt is because he never puts out any effort, playing matador defense with his hands the entire game.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoryMac5
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Through two games, when teams run (including QB's) to Cincinnati's Left End/Contain/Back-7/8 Run Coverage (that's not behind where the Right Tackle lines up for the other team, but an actual end run outside of the Tackle/Tight End), the Bengals have the 3rd best results in the NFL giving up only 0.73 yards per attempt according to Football Outsiders.
Conversely, when teams run [including QB's to Cincinnati's Right End/Contain/Back-7/8 Run Coverage (outside the Offense's Tight End/Left Tackle)], the Bengals rank 31st in the NFL giving up 8.30 yards per attempt.
Gee, I wonder where Miles Sanders is going to be running on Sunday?
But wait, there's more.
So where do the Bengals Defensive Line rank if a runner runs behind the other three listed spots that the official NFL stats list?
Running (including QB's) at the Offense's Left Tackle (the Bengals' right Defensive End) the Bengals rank 22nd at 5.65 ypc.
Running (including QB's) at the Offense's Right Tackle (the Bengals' left Defensive End) the Bengals rank 18th at 4.54 ypc.
Running (including QB's) up the middle behind Center or either Guard (the NFL doesn't differentiate LG or RG) the Bengals rank 27th at 5.12 ypc.
When Geno comes back, I would put him over the Center's left shoulder and sometimes let him rush from the Bengal's far right side outside the other team's LT, but I'd keep him on the right side of the Bengals' line.
On a positive note, the Bengals rank 3rd best in the NFL on this Run Defense statistic where they are giving up just a 30% success rate and the NFL average is 60%:
Power Success: Percentage of runs on third or fourth down, two yards or less to go, that achieved a first down or touchdown. Also includes runs on first-and-goal or second-and-goal from the two-yard line or closer.
You would think that there elite ability to stop the run on short yardage would translate to their ability for stuffing a run, defined as the percentage of runs where the running back is tackled at or behind the line of scrimmage. But, it doesn't. The Bengals rank 28th in this achieving the goal at only a 12% rate (the NFL average is 17%).
Cincinnati ranks 30th and 27th, respectively, on these last two Defensive Run team statistics:
Second Level Yards: Yards earned by opposing running backs against this team between 5-10 yards past the line of scrimmage, divided by total running back carries.
Open Field Yards: Yards earned by opposing running backs against this team more than 10 yards past the line of scrimmage, divided by total running back carries.
Saw a mock today that had the Bengals picking 5th and taking Patrick Surtain II.
If Sewell isn’t available where would you like to see the Bengals go since this is a multi year rebuild. Wyatt Davis? Greg Rousseau?
Offensive Tackle. It starts and ends right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by WVRed
BPA but trade down if their guy isn't there.
Well, I can dream anyway.
Do whatever is necessary to get Sewell. Trade away as many picks/players as necessary.
I just hope they have a strong option #2 and don’t panic when a team in front of them takes who they want because they seem to Telegraph their intentions. Then they panic and take a Sean Brewer or Jerome Simpson WTF type pick.
I'd be ok with them trading down . . . IF they'd actually consider it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Sheed
The SPIN: From bengals.com:
https://www.bengals.com/news/taylor-...act-for-eagles
GH: How would you characterize the play of the offensive line? A lot of people are down on them. It sounds like you guys are not.
ZT: That's kind of the fun thing to do right now. We'll just continue to make the corrections. It's always one different error in the run game. We've got to get everybody in sync and we've got some explosive runs that can show up. In the pass game, really, we've faced two of the premier rushers in the NFL and our guys have really battled and given Joe a chance back there.
GH: Are you worried about the hits Joe is taking? Or is just what happens in the NFL?
ZT: I think it's a little bit overblown. There are some things not necessarily hits, pressures that may appear that way, but these guys up front are fighting their tails off.
The TRUTH: From PFF's analysis of the Cleveland game, for example, a game where they should have improved from the first game against the Chargers:
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-five-ta...ls-week-2-2020
BURROW'S OFFENSIVE LINE MAKES IT HARD FOR HIM TO GET ANYTHING COOKING
"Burrow had to play from behind for most of the game and was put to work as a result — he tripled Mayfield's dropbacks in the game. That means he also saw a substantial amount of pressure due to his lowly offensive line. While he did invite some pressure in himself and should’ve seen the Myles Garrett strip-sack coming, the offensive line had Burrow under pressure on 32% of his dropbacks. And when he wasn’t under pressure, he got the ball out extremely quickly. Of his 45 attempts from a clean pocket, Burrow had a time-to-throw of under 2.0 seconds on 19. And overall, he had an average time-to-throw of 2.3 seconds on those passes.
Altogether, the Bengals' offensive line combined for 40 losses on the night (pressures plus plays when the defender wins but doesn’t obtain pressure). That would be hard for any quarterback to overcome, but Burrow still wasn’t terrible, finishing with a 67.2 passing grade. It could have been better, but it also could have been much worse, and I would guess a good chunk of NFL quarterbacks would struggle significantly behind that line. He did have an underthrown ball that should have been picked on his end-zone shot to A.J. Green before the end of the first half, but Burrow notched three big-time throws in the game. His best throw happened to be his first career touchdown pass. Cincinnati ran four verticals against Cleveland’s Cover 6 defense and hit the weakside Cover 2 hole perfectly. That was the only downfield shot he hit all game.
The others he attempted weren’t so great. Still, Burrow once again was able to routinely deliver catchable targets to his receivers at the short and intermediate levels, which helped him earn an 80.7 passing grade on those throws. Those empty formations work — even with a bad offensive line. In addition, it’s impressive how much he shows up in big moments as a rookie — his final drive in Week 1 and the fourth downs against Cleveland where he went five for five are a testament to that. But if we want to see this Cincinnati offense start successfully attacking downfield, the offensive line has to give him more time and be better overall."
Hitting multiple deep throws is the main thing I hope to see this week.
Denial is not just a river in Africa. This explains last off-season perfectly.
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Originally Posted by Kingspoint
We will keep working with the group we have is Mike Brown speak that’s been regurgitated since Coslet and better by Lewis.
You can make trades sure or look for players that are not part of the They know our system network. But with no fear of failure there is no fear of being replaced.
There truly is no fear of failure among the players which trickles down from the Brown family.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger
Don't complain and collect your check is the only thing to concern yourself with.
I dont see but 2 wins max from this team, just to many wholes that were not filled by drafting a QB #1 and not trading the pick.