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Official 2010 Reds Signed Draft Picks Thread
It's never too early to start. Hopefully at least some of these guys will sign in the next couple of weeks.
Players who have signed are in bold.
1 12 Yasmani Grandal C Miami Fla.
2 62 Ryan LaMarre OF Michigan Mich.
3 94 Devin Lohman SS Long Beach State Calif.
4 127 Brodie Greene 2B Texas A&M Texas
5 157 Wes Mugarian RHP Pensacola (Fla.) Catholic HS Fla.
6 187 Drew Cisco RHP Wando HS, Mt. Pleasant, S.C. S.C.
7 217 Tony Amezcua RHP Bellflower (Calif.) HS Calif.
8 247 David Vidal 3B Miami Dade JC Fla.
9 277 Tanner Robles LHP Oregon State Ore.
10 307 Kevin Arico RHP Virginia Va.
11 337 Andrew Hayes RHP Vanderbilt Tenn.
12 367 Kyle Waldrop OF Riverdale HS, Fort Myers, Fla. Fla.
13 397 Lucas O'Rear RHP Northern Iowa Iowa
14 427 Daniel Wolford RHP California Calif.
15 457 Stephen Hunt LHP South Florida Fla.
16 487 Rob Kral C College of Charleston S.C.
17 517 Brent Peterson SS Liberty HS, Bakersfield, Calif. Calif.
18 547 Robert Maddox OF Ohio Ohio
19 577 Josh Alexander OF Mountain Pointe HS, Phoenix Ariz.
20 607 Chris Berset C Michigan Mich.
21 637 Josh Smith RHP Lipscomb Fla.
22 667 Kurtis Muller OF Iowa Iowa
23 697 Randy Fontanez RHP South Florida Fla.
24 727 Patrick Doyle RHP Missouri State Mo.
25 757 Dan Renken RHP Cal State Fullerton Calif.
26 787 Ty Stuckey LHP Houston Texas
27 817 Joel Bender LHP Oak Hills HS, Cincinnati Ohio
28 847 Chad Rogers RHP Galveston (Texas) CC Texas
29 877 Muenster Muenster 3B Kansas State Kan.
30 907 Brad Hendrix RHP Auburn Ala.
31 937 Dominic D'Anna 1B Cal State Northridge Calif.
32 967 Jaren Matthews 1B Rutgers N.J.
33 997 David Garner RHP Niles (Mich.) HS Mich.
34 1027 Brandon Dailey SS Johnson SS, Brantford, Ont.
35 1057 Tyler Wilson RHP Virginia Va.
36 1087 Chuck Ghysets RHP Lincoln Trail (Ill.) JC Ill.
37 1117 Nick Sawyer RHP Hebron HS, Carrollton, Texas Texas
38 1147 Matt Leonard LHP Cal Poly Calif.
39 1177 Jacob May SS Lakota West HS, West Chester, Ohio Ohio
40 1207 Lee Orr OF McNeese State La.
41 1237 Jonathan Kaskow 1B Stanford Calif.
42 1267 Mitchell Hopkins LHP Louisiana State-Eunice JC La.
43 1297 Matt Campbell RHP Florida Fla.
44 1327 Eddie Campbell LHP Bridgewater Raynham HS, Bridgewater, Mass. Mass.
45 1357 William Harford C Notre Dame Ind.
46 1387 Patrick Quinn RHP St. Petersburg (Fla.) JC Fla.
47 1417 William Shepherd 1B Texas Texas
48 1447 David Eldredge C Punahou HS, Honolulu Hawaii
49 1477 El'Hajj Muhammad RHP CC of Morris (N.J.) N.J.
50 1507 Dexter Kjerstad OF Randall HS, Amarillo, Texas Texas
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Moderators, can we get a sticky? Also, please feel free to edit once new players are signed.
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I would imagine they sign 13 or 14 of the first 15 picks. The High School arms being the questions and 32 to 38 total signers overall. Definite HS must signs are Waldrop and Cisco...
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Nice find, Jax. Waldrop would be a very nice 12th round sign.
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Pensacola article about 5th rounder, Wes Mugarian:
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Mugarian also said that they didn't come to any agreement on a cash bonus — the biggest point of contention for drafted players — but told the Reds "to draft me where they see fit and we can talk about money and stuff after the draft."
http://www.pnj.com/article/20100609/...rabbed-by-Reds
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OesterPoster
Sounds like he and his reps are familiar with what we've done the last couple of years, grabbing guys who have fallen because of signability issues who we've bumped up the slot money and gotten the deal done.
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Although I didn't think Mugarian was considered a Top 200 talent?
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Mugarian is supposed to be one of the aces for my Crimson Tide next season. Lowball him. ;)
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Looks like LaMarre is done.
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Ryan LaMarre is expected to sign his first professional baseball contract as early as Friday and he could be in a minor-league uniform by the weekend.
LaMarre, a Lumen Christi High School graduate and a second-round pick of the Cincinnati Reds in the baseball draft Tuesday, said Thursday he has agreed to a contract and will begin his pro career with Cincinnati’s Class-A team in Dayton, Ohio.
http://www.mlive.com/sports/jackson/...amarre_ex.html
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Excellent -- getting an early start in Dayton is going to help LaMarre.
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Anyone know what LaMarre signed for? Any guesses?
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fearofpopvol1
Anyone know what LaMarre signed for? Any guesses?
My guess is $550-600,000. Slot is somewhere in that range I believe
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Finally a reason to go to a Dragons game this year.
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Anyone know what LaMarre signed for? Any guesses?
Last year's 12th pick in the 2nd round got $625k.
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lollipopcurve
Excellent -- getting an early start in Dayton is going to help LaMarre.
When the other signngs are done and the Billings and Goodyear rosters take shape, I wonder if Yorman will join him?
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Nice to see LaMarre signed so quickly. Hopefully Grandal signs by July 1st and gets some playing time this season.
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Nice article on Devin Lohman...hopefully he signs quickly
http://santamariatimes.com/sports/ba...cc4c03286.html
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Az. Reds Fan
With Hamilton in Billings, Rojas in Dayton, and Gregorious in Lynchburg, I wonder where he'll play if/once he signs.
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Its great to have Lamarre in the fold already now lets hope Grandal signs as soon as his college season is over. We need to get him accustomed to using a wooden bat!!
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Benihana
With Hamilton in Billings, Rojas in Dayton, and Gregorious in Lynchburg, I wonder where he'll play if/once he signs.
Hard to say where he'll play, I'm sure there will be a lot of roster shuffling before the short season teams begin...with that being said, according to his bio, he also played some second base earlier in his college career.
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With Hamilton in Billings
Are the Reds really going to start him in Billings?
He only "hit" .205/.253/.277 in the GCL last year. Is he really ready to play against 20-22 year olds in the Pioneer League?
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Benihana
With Hamilton in Billings, Rojas in Dayton, and Gregorious in Lynchburg, I wonder where he'll play if/once he signs.
My guess: Hamilton stays at AZL; Lohman to Billings; Gregorius stays at Dayton; Rojas stays at Lynchburg.
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Despite his low draft position, I wouldn't be surprised if Renken started in Dayton. He has three years as a starter in a good college program.
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My guess: Hamilton stays at AZL; Lohman to Billings; Gregorius stays at Dayton; Rojas stays at Lynchburg.
Gotta be.
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RED VAN HOT
Despite his low draft position, I wouldn't be surprised if Renken started in Dayton. He has three years as a starter in a good college program.
Ala Serrano.
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Baseball America's take on the Reds draft.
This could be the Reds' best draft in years. Yasmani Grandal (1) may not be Matt Weiters or Buster Posey, but he's an offensive catcher with solid receiving skills. Grandal is Miami's best catching prospect since Charles Johnson and is a value at No. 12 overall. Cincinnati got another first-round talent in speedy Michigan OF Ryan LaMarre (2), and a trio of prep pitchers with upside in RHPs Wes Mugarian (5), Drew Cisco (6) and Tony Amezcua (7). The grandson of a big league pitcher and coach, Cisco has the least fastball velocity but the most upside thanks to his moxie, command and bloodlines. OF Kyle Waldrop (12), a prep football player with good bat speed, and RHP Lucas O'Rear (13), a former Northern Iowa basketball player, are standout athletes who could be intriguing prospects if they sign.
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New Fever
Baseball America's take on the Reds draft.
This could be the Reds' best draft in years. Yasmani Grandal (1) may not be Matt Weiters or Buster Posey, but he's an offensive catcher with solid receiving skills. Grandal is Miami's best catching prospect since Charles Johnson and is a value at No. 12 overall. Cincinnati got another first-round talent in speedy Michigan OF Ryan LaMarre (2), and a trio of prep pitchers with upside in RHPs Wes Mugarian (5), Drew Cisco (6) and Tony Amezcua (7). The grandson of a big league pitcher and coach, Cisco has the least fastball velocity but the most upside thanks to his moxie, command and bloodlines. OF Kyle Waldrop (12), a prep football player with good bat speed, and RHP Lucas O'Rear (13), a former Northern Iowa basketball player, are standout athletes who could be intriguing prospects if they sign.
Thanks for that New Fever.
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New Fever
Baseball America's take on the Reds draft.
This could be the Reds' best draft in years. Yasmani Grandal (1) may not be Matt Weiters or Buster Posey, but he's an offensive catcher with solid receiving skills. Grandal is Miami's best catching prospect since Charles Johnson and is a value at No. 12 overall. Cincinnati got another first-round talent in speedy Michigan OF Ryan LaMarre (2), and a trio of prep pitchers with upside in RHPs Wes Mugarian (5), Drew Cisco (6) and Tony Amezcua (7). The grandson of a big league pitcher and coach, Cisco has the least fastball velocity but the most upside thanks to his moxie, command and bloodlines. OF Kyle Waldrop (12), a prep football player with good bat speed, and RHP Lucas O'Rear (13), a former Northern Iowa basketball player, are standout athletes who could be intriguing prospects if they sign.
That's good to hear. Unfortunately, it just makes the Lohman pick even more of a head scratcher.
On another note, even though we already knew this, C. Trent confirmed the signing of LaMarre via Twitter.
ctrent #Reds officially sign No. 2 draft pick, U of Michigan OF Ryan LaMarre
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Sure sounds like Muller from Iowa is ready to sign any day. Anyone see him play this year? Stats look impressive.
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"We'll see what happens," he said. "But I think I'm ready to start my professional career."
Muller led the Hawkeyes in hitting (.381), runs (57), stolen bases (30), hits (83), total bases (119), slugging percentage (.546), on-base percentage (.460) and played errorless defense.
http://hawkcentral.press-citizen.com...1/6090328/1053
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John Sickels' take on the top 10:
Cincinnati Reds Draft Analysis
1) Yasmani Grandal, C, University of Miami-Florida: A very strong defender who took a big step forward with the bat this year, showing power and plate discipline. He probably won't need much time in the minors, and I think he was a terrific pick, though his price tag won't be cheap.
2) Ryan LaMarre, OF, University of Michigan: A fine athlete with excellent makeup, LaMarre can be inconsistent with the bat and struggled with a thumb/wrist injury this spring. He's a good pick in the second round, with loads of upside but some risk as well.
3) Devin Lohman, SS, Long Beach State University: Another in a long line of LBSU shortstops, Lohman has a decent glove at short but may end up at second base ultimately. He can hit for average and show some pop to the gaps, but isn't a huge power guy. In the end he might fit best as a strong utility infielder, but there is a non-zero chance he can hit enough to get beyond that.
4) Brodie Greene, 2B, Texas A&M: Another middle infielder from a strong college program, Greene is an easily-signable senior, runs well, has a strong throwing arm, showed some pop in college, and is very versatile with the glove. His work ethic is excellent and he has a good shot at being a solid utilityman.
5) Wes Mugarian, RHP, Florida HS: He'll need to be bought out of Alabama, but his 90-92 MPH fastball and good curve make it likely that the Reds will do so. I don't think they would have spent a fifth round pick otherwise.
6) Drew Cisco, RHP, South Carolina HS: Another signability question, Cisco is committed to Georgia. He is one of the most polished high school pitchers available and really knows how to pitch (his grandfather is longtime coach Galen Cisco), but average velocity kept him from truly elite status in the draft class.
7) Tony Amezcua, RHP, California HS: A projectability pick, Amezcua throws 90-92 and may pick up more zip as he matures. He will need to be bought out of Long Beach State.
8) David Vidal, 3B, Miami-Dade CC: Vidal is undersized at 5-10, but has a very powerful bat. Scouts aren't sure where he will fit defensively, as he doesn't run well enough to play outfield. His arm is good enough for third, but his hands might not be, and he's too short for a classic first baseman. He can hit though. He will need to be bought out of Florida International.
9) Tanner Robles, LHP, Oregon State University: He has an 88-90 MPH heater, but his breaking ball and changeup are inconsistent, and scouts don't like him as much as they did when he was a Utah high school player.
10) Kevin Arico, RHP, University of Virginia: Arico picked up 16 saves this year, but his stuff is mediocre for a right-hander. He projects as a middle reliever if he makes it.
FOUR OTHERS OF NOTE: 12-Kyle Waldrop, OF, Florida HS; 13-Lucas O'Rear, RHP, University of Northern Iowa; 18-Robert Maddox, OF, University of Ohio; 19-Josh Alexander, OF, Arizona HS:
COMMENT: I like the Grandal selection, and a lot of scouts think LaMarre will blossom as he gets further past the injury. Neither Lohman nor Greene will be stars, but both have a good shot at being major league contributors. The three high school pitchers would be great to add to the system if they can sign them: Reds fans should be happy if two of them come to terms, though they will all need substantial bonuses. Vidal's bat is intriguing, but the ninth and tenth round picks look like stretches. Overall I think this is a good class, with a nice mixture of talents and backgrounds...if they can get some of that high school pitching inked.
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...and he has a good shot at being a solid utilityman.
Out side of the top 10, I don'tmind picks that profile as solid utility players, but I'd don't like it being termed as the ceiling for our thrd and fourth round picks.
Utility players we can find every year in free agancy for close to the minimum. I'd rather use the third and fourth round picks on guys that have pop and projectability, but may have more risk or are signability questions than use them on utility IFs.
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corkedbat
Out side of the top 10, I don'tmind picks that profile as solid utility players, but I'd don't like it being termed as the ceiling for our thrd and fourth round picks.
Utility players we can find every year in free agancy for close to the minimum. I'd rather use the third and fourth round picks on guys that have pop and projectability, but may have more risk or are signability questions than use them on utility IFs.
Agreed.
I'm not thrilled about either of those two picks, but that seems to be Buckley's MO. Not quite sure why they'd take guys like that over a pitcher with huge upside like James Paxton, but can't micro-analyze every pick in the draft. Of course you never know who will emerge, but I believe the success of this class will rest heavily with Grandal, LaMarre, Cisco, and Waldrop. Anyone else will be gravy IMO.
Interesting to note that Sickels said Grandal plays "very strong defense."
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JaxRed
Nice signing. Thi kid could develop and get stronger, but you can't teach speed. Could be the CF/leadoff guy for Billings. This is the start of a real flurry of guys not in the Super Regionals. I'd like to see those HS arms and Waldrop sign.
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Benihana
Agreed.
I'm not thrilled about either of those two picks, but that seems to be Buckley's MO. Not quite sure why they'd take guys like that over a pitcher with huge upside like James Paxton, but can't micro-analyze every pick in the draft. Of course you never know who will emerge, but I believe the success of this class will rest heavily with Grandal, LaMarre, Cisco, and Waldrop. Anyone else will be gravy IMO.
Interesting to note that Sickels said Grandal plays "very strong defense."
Money. Perhaps the Reds didn't like Paxton at the rate he is expected to demand, I don't agree but maybe the scouts didn't like him that much. The farm is operating on a budget and seems to like taking most of their risks in the international market. This is not a bad idea as you can often find high upside talent at a lower cost than in the draft. After taking Grandal (who is expected to have a pretty high asking price) they decided to draft a few signable guys rather than throw away picks on guys that they had no intention of signing.
Overall though, a very solid draft and another step in the right direction for our farm system. We continue to build the upper levels of our system through drafting low risk players while building our high upside talent through the international market. It will only be a few years from now that the two will begin merging together to create a farm system that is both very deep and also having several high upside players at the higher levels. This method should begin to start producing a very solid stream of players to the big league team as well as a few "studs" every now and again. I really like where the organization as a whole is heading.
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corkedbat
Out side of the top 10, I don'tmind picks that profile as solid utility players, but I'd don't like it being termed as the ceiling for our thrd and fourth round picks.
Utility players we can find every year in free agancy for close to the minimum. I'd rather use the third and fourth round picks on guys that have pop and projectability, but may have more risk or are signability questions than use them on utility IFs.
That is true, I think you are undervaluing what a utility player brings to a club. Good utility players are harder to find and cost more than the minimum. A team can find Cairo's and J. Cabrera's and Andy Phillips' and Mark Belhorn's for the minimum all day, every day. But a winning team needs to be able to have a real backup for every position, so they don't lose ground when they have injuries.
Last year, one of the biggest problems was the number of AB's that Rosales got at 3B and Hernandez got at 1B. A good utility guy can be almost as valuable to a team as starter, if he is pressed into duty and holds his own. I would say that Dickerson and Janish have been very valuable as utility players and that it definitely would cost more than the minimum to replace their production since they've joined the Reds.
I think one key element of a winning organization is that they fill out their roster with homegrown talent. They don't have to spend money or talent to get solid middle relievers and bench players who can fill in for starters, they can just call up guys from the minors.
If Lohman and Greene become as valuable as Hairston was for the team, I think the Reds made good use of their 3rd and 4th round picks this season.
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corkedbat
Nice signing. Thi kid could develop and get stronger, but you can't teach speed. Could be the CF/leadoff guy for Billings. This is the start of a real flurry of guys not in the Super Regionals. I'd like to see those HS arms and Waldrop sign.
Yorman will be playing CF in Billings, LaMarre in Dayton, Perez/Fellhauer in Lynchburg, and Sappelt in Carolina.
Looks like Muller will have to learn a corner spot unless he is going to start in the AZL.
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TheNext44
That is true, I think you are undervaluing what a utility player brings to a club. Good utility players are harder to find and cost more than the minimum. A team can find Cairo's and J. Cabrera's and Andy Phillips' and Mark Belhorn's for the minimum all day, every day. But a winning team needs to be able to have a real backup for every position, so they don't lose ground when they have injuries.
I think one key element of a winning organization is that they fill out their roster with homegrown talent. They don't have to spend money or talent to get solid middle relievers and bench players who can fill in for starters, they can just call up guys from the minors.
If Lohman and Greene become as valuable as Hairston was for the team, I think the Reds made good use of their 3rd and 4th round picks this season.
Agree. If a third or fourth draft choice projects to be a solid major leaguer -- even in a utility role -- he is worth it. Although I wouldn't be too rough on Cairo, he's been excellent.
The key is getting major leaguers out of the draft. Starting players, bench players, starting pitchers, relievers.
And people are being too rough on the Lohman selection. From what I read, he has a shot to be a good shortstop, although without much power.
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If a third or fourth draft choice projects to be a solid major leaguer -- even in a utility role -- he is worth it. Although I wouldn't be too rough on Cairo, he's been excellent.
The key is getting major leaguers out of the draft. Starting players, bench players, starting pitchers, relievers.
And people are being too rough on the Lohman selection. From what I read, he has a shot to be a good shortstop, although without much power.
Agree 100%.
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Kc61
Agree. If a third or fourth draft choice projects to be a solid major leaguer -- even in a utility role -- he is worth it. Although I wouldn't be too rough on Cairo, he's been excellent.
The key is getting major leaguers out of the draft. Starting players, bench players, starting pitchers, relievers.
And people are being too rough on the Lohman selection. From what I read, he has a shot to be a good shortstop, although without much power.
I realize that the odds are stacked against most draft choices and even a utility guy or journeyman reliever is a success. I just think that you should aim higher in the 3rd and 4th rounds - even if you miss.