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    Re: Friday June 13th 2014 Minor League Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by OGB View Post
    People are way too reactionary when it comes to prospects. Nobody has said squat about Lively recently because he has had three average to bad starts in a row. A month ago he was a sure fire future Cy Young.
    I love Winker, but here's a news flash: when he gets promoted, he wont be leading his new league in OPS. Prepare yourselves.
    This. So much this.

    Robert Stephenson is still, EASILY, the best prospect in the system and for as much as I love Jesse Winkers bat, and as impressive as the turnaround for Michael Lorenzen has been in his new role, no one is within sniffing distance of Stephenson.


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    Re: Friday June 13th 2014 Minor League Updates

    Wait...

    Are you guys trying to tell me Winker won't OPS 1.000 in the Southern League?

    Because you guys are crazy if you think he won't.



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    Re: Friday June 13th 2014 Minor League Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by OGB View Post
    People are way too reactionary when it comes to prospects. Nobody has said squat about Lively recently because he has had three average to bad starts in a row. A month ago he was a sure fire future Cy Young.
    I love Winker, but here's a news flash: when he gets promoted, he wont be leading his new league in OPS. Prepare yourselves.
    Robert Stephenson, who has the best God-given pitching talent the Reds have seen in a generation, is not having an excellent season at AA. 3.99 ERA. 1.31 WHIP. He is 21 years old. Last season he walked 35 men in 114 innings. This season he has walked 38 men in 70 innings. He has time. But I think you can make the argument that his "prospect-rank-ness" has taken a hit this season, perhaps only marginally one may argue. I know his arm is a golden one.

    I am not wanting to slight him, as if I could pick one player to keep from the farm, it would be him, here today. But (just my opinion), if Winker shows up in AA and performs well...I may give a different answer then.

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    Re: Friday June 13th 2014 Minor League Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Robert Stephenson, who has the best God-given pitching talent the Reds have seen in a generation, is not having an excellent season at AA. 3.99 ERA. 1.31 WHIP. He is 21 years old. Last season he walked 35 men in 114 innings. This season he has walked 38 men in 70 innings. He has time. But I think you can make the argument that his "prospect-rank-ness" has taken a hit this season, perhaps only marginally one may argue. I know his arm is a golden one.

    I am not wanting to slight him, as if I could pick one player to keep from the farm, it would be him, here today. But (just my opinion), if Winker shows up in AA and performs well...I may give a different answer then.
    Stephenson is one of only two pitchers in the league that is under 22 years old and has more than 15 innings pitched. That he is having some games where he struggles should be a surprise to no one. He is also pitching in an incredibly HR friendly home ballpark. He has some funny splits. He has allowed 6 homers at home and one on the road, but he has 27/20 K/BB on the road and 46/18 at home.

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    Re: Friday June 13th 2014 Minor League Updates

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckie View Post
    I don't think you understand what the word "concerned" means. I certainly didn't suggest that Stephenson had fallen from the Reds' top prospect to No. 200. Just that I'm concerned about his inability to find the strike zone. He's still one of the team's top 3 prospects for sure (I'd put him No. 2 behind Winker).
    If a guy is likely a 4 or 5, he's about the # 200 or worse prospect in baseball. He hadn't had issues with walks in the last month before last night. But if you think he's still a top 2 prospect in the system then we agree


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