No More Saturday Morning Cartoons

[Chip R]

If kids were still watching cartoons on Saturday mornings, they would still be on. Let's face it, all the creative animation is in the evenings. There's animation for kids on all day during the week. If kids want to watch them on Saturday mornings, DVR them during the week and have them watch it on Saturdays.

[redsfanmia]

M

Avery was a genius, some of his content has changed in the ensuing years.

It has as much to do with liberals as it does with the age old adage of "do on to others"

Everything changes, process it, deal with it, live with it.

I remember watching the Bugs Bunny cartoon entitled Lets nip the Nips, it was WWII and bugs was handing out bombs dropping derogatory names the the Japanese.

Hopefully this doesn't offend anyone.

[westofyou]

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I remember watching the Bugs Bunny cartoon entitled Lets nip the Nips, it was WWII and bugs was handing out bombs dropping derogatory names the the Japanese.

Hopefully this doesn't offend anyone.

When? That hasn't been on kids tv since the 50s, maybe a documentary or something

I've seen those and some others in film school the whole era was ripe with racial stereotyping and those were by far the most aggressive ones

[KittyDuran]

When? That hasn't been on kids tv since the 50s, maybe a documentary or something

I've seen those and some others in film school the whole era was ripe with racial stereotyping and those were by far the most aggressive ones

I know the cartoons since I still have them on VHS tapes - never seen them on TV. The two VHS tapes are:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugs_%2...rtime_Cartoons and
http://www.amazon.com/Cartoons-At-Wa.../dp/B000MC6JM4 This one has "Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips", as well as "Tokyo Jokio" and "Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs". The quality of the tape is very poor to begin with.

[*BaseClogger*]

[KittyDuran]

I don't know what Rex Avery is but why would we want kids watching something that disrespected women and minorities?

You have to take it in terms of when they were made - acceptable today? of course not! Also a lot of the old Warner Bros and MGM cartoons were placed before movies in theaters and had to cater not only to kids but to adults as well. My Dad would watch the cartoons with us on Saturday mornings if he wasn't working - but he would sometimes laugh at the wrong time. Or so I thought. When I got older I realized he was laughing not only at an era reference but at the adult humor that went over our young heads.

On the same note: I was lucky to have purchased Warner Bros and MGM VHS tapes made available in the 80s/90s before they were edited-a great store in the old Forest Fair Mall called Cartoon Corner. Some of the editing I could accept - the most common edit was the "suicide" gag where a character usually uttering the line "Now I've seen everything" shots himself in the head. Other edits were of drug use (mostly pill popping). Two cartoons where the editing cut out the flow where 1) "The Big Snooze" with Bugs and Elmer (Elmer goes to sleep and to enter his dreams Bugs takes sleeping pills "Take deze and doze"). The edited version has Bugs just falling into a deep sleep w/o help. 2) "Hopalong Casualty" with the Roadrunner and the Coyote (Coyote orders, from ACME of course, earthquake pills which the Roadrunner eats them and nothing happens. Coyote eats one...nothing, then in frustration downs the whole bottle.. nothing-yet. As he throws the bottle away, his eyes follow the small print "Caution - not effective on roadrunners", then his body goes into convulsions). Edited version shows only his body convulsing-no pill taking at all.

[Sea Ray]

here's an excellent article about the very thing we're discussing. We live in an age where Amazon has to put a disclaimer on the Tom & Jerry videos they're selling:

So while Amazon has recently added “Tom and Jerry” to its video streaming service, they made sure to include a racism disclaimer: a warning that “Tom and Jerry” contains “some ethnic and racial prejudices that were once commonplace in American society.”

Characters like Mammy Two Shoes “were wrong then and are wrong today,” the warning reads, incensing some fans of the seven-time Academy-Award winning show. “I loved Tom and Jerry as a kid and it never made me think poorly of ethnic minorities or want to smoke cigars,” one tweeted. Another “watched Tom and Jerry since the 60s this is the 1st time I’ve ever heard the R word in relation to it. PC madness!”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ly-racist.html

And it's not just racial and sexism stuff. 8 yrs ago Turner Broadcasting made a point of editing out all the scenes where smoking is glamorized in these cartoons. That's equally appalling as PC madness:

Turner Broadcasting is scouring more than 1,500 classic Hanna-Barbera cartoons, including old favorites Tom and Jerry, The Flintstones, and Scooby-Doo, to edit out scenes that glamorize smoking.

http://www.tv.com/news/smoking-cuts-...cartoons-5948/

So they're editing stuff like this from those old classic cartoons and yet we're left with the stuff we get from Family Guy and South Park. How is that OK?

[*BaseClogger*]

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Since when did Tom & Jerry and South Park have the same audience?

[Rojo]

I like Speedy Gonzalez, he's a Bolshevik, always taking cheese from the capitalist pig factory and handing it out to the peasants. Viva, Speedy!

[redsfanmia]

When? That hasn't been on kids tv since the 50s, maybe a documentary or something

I've seen those and some others in film school the whole era was ripe with racial stereotyping and those were by far the most aggressive ones

Maybe it was a documentary, I know I have seen it.

[cumberlandreds]

Maybe it was a documentary, I know I have seen it.

You may have seen them on You Tube. They are there now.

[19braves77]

1985 had to be the best year for Saturday Cartoons if you were a male. My schedule usually went like this:

Bugs Bunny/Looney Tunes Comedy Hour- 8AM
Ewoks- 9:AM
Droids The Adventures of R2-D2 and C3PO while watching Smurfs during commercials. 9:30am
Hulk Hogan's Rock 'n' Wrestling! 10:00am
and the morning was concluded with Alvin and Chipmunks until 10:30am

[KittyDuran]

You may have seen them on You Tube. They are there now.

Check out the SNAFU cartoons that Warner Bros made for the military during WWII. But keep in mind the audience that was watching them.

[Revering4Blue]

Schedules and program profiles for every series the networks broadcast on Saturday Mornings from the mid-Sixties all through the Seventies and into the eighties.

http://tvparty.com/sat.html

A trip down memory lane.

[westofyou]

1985 had to be the best year for Saturday Cartoons if you were a male. My schedule usually went like this:

Bugs Bunny/Looney Tunes Comedy Hour- 8AM
Ewoks- 9:AM
Droids The Adventures of R2-D2 and C3PO while watching Smurfs during commercials. 9:30am
Hulk Hogan's Rock 'n' Wrestling! 10:00am
and the morning was concluded with Alvin and Chipmunks until 10:30am

http://www.tvparty.com/sat69.html