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    Re: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2015 announced

    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Heffner View Post
    I love these lists. I love this debate.

    I look at a band like Phish and think- I'll bet not one percent of America can name one song they do.



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    Well there's 'Truckin'', 'Casey Jones', 'Uncle John's Band'....

    or maybe I'm confusing them with someone else.
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    Re: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2015 announced

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Honestly, this just screams "I'm out of touch."

    Go to any college campus and everyone will know phish.
    Yeah. Thanks. As I said when I did college radio, there were Phish fans. Their musical influence and their net were not cast very wide, however.

    They may be your favorite band, that's great, the discussion is whether they should be in te hall of fame. And the vast, vast, vast, majority of people could not name one Phish song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcshoe View Post
    Well there's 'Truckin'', 'Casey Jones', 'Uncle John's Band'....

    or maybe I'm confusing them with someone else.
    Classics. Ahem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Heffner View Post
    Yeah. Thanks. As I said when I did college radio, there were Phish fans. Their musical influence and their net were not cast very wide, however.

    They may be your favorite band, that's great, the discussion is whether they should be in te hall of fame. And the vast, vast, vast, majority of people could not name one Phish song.
    The vast majority of people cannot name one Lou Reed song.

    Most people I know (that are not Phish fans) can name a song.

    Both of those statements mean nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcshoe View Post
    Well there's 'Truckin'', 'Casey Jones', 'Uncle John's Band'....

    or maybe I'm confusing them with someone else.
    How original.

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    Re: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2015 announced

    I would bet $100 Dom loves Def Leppard

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    How original.
    That was my point.
    Last edited by marcshoe; 12-22-2014 at 07:20 PM.
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    Re: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2015 announced

    How is Joe Cocker not in the HoF???
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Re: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2015 announced

    I will never understand people that say phish is a dead copycat.

    They sound absolutely nothing alike.

    Trey sounds more like Les Dudek or Santana than Jerry.

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    Re: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2015 announced

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Pavement is to the scene 20 years ago what VU was to the scene (with a little MC5) was to the scene in 1970


    http://www.gq.com/entertainment/musi...pavement-indie
    "People tend to know everything or nothing."

    Yes. Precisely.

    The people who love them, LOVE them. Most people don't love them because most people have no idea who they are.

    The people who know who Pavement are the ones who know Alex Chilton, who wear ironic glasses, wear pea coats and scarves....its hipster music. A Village Voice critic, yes. Exactly. A Village Voice critic would love Pavement and be the exact person to overrate them, while drinking $7 coffee.

    Decade defining, that's great. Let me tell you something, the band of that decade was Nirvana and it ain't close.

    And that's absolutely fine. But it's hard to make a case for the hall of fame based on a band that nobody's listening to. I doubt if they've sold a million records for their career.

    They would be the 2 PM inductee into the hall, and the bands that all their fans make fun of would be in prime time.

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    Re: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2015 announced

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    I would bet $100 Dom loves Def Leppard
    I love them and yet I'm not on here campaigning for them to be in the hall.

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    Re: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2015 announced

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    The vast majority of people cannot name one Lou Reed song.

    Most people I know (that are not Phish fans) can name a song.

    Both of those statements mean nothing.

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    How original.
    Well Lou Reed is another one who is overrated, but it's like talking to Yankee fans.

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    Re: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2015 announced

    Who is hall worthy in your opinion?

    I am sensing you think everyone is overrated, other than Guns N Roses, of course.

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    Re: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2015 announced

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Who is hall worthy in your opinion?

    I am sensing you think everyone is overrated, other than Guns N Roses, of course.
    Hey at least people outside those who read Bret Easton Ellis knows who they are lol....

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with some smack talk when it comes to music.

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    Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2015 announced

    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Heffner View Post
    "People tend to know everything or nothing."

    Yes. Precisely.

    The people who love them, LOVE them. Most people don't love them because most people have no idea who they are.

    The people who know who Pavement are the ones who know Alex Chilton, who wear ironic glasses, wear pea coats and scarves....its hipster music. A Village Voice critic, yes. Exactly. A Village Voice critic would love Pavement and be the exact person to overrate them, while drinking $7 coffee.

    Decade defining, that's great. Let me tell you something, the band of that decade was Nirvana and it ain't close.

    And that's absolutely fine. But it's hard to make a case for the hall of fame based on a band that nobody's listening to. I doubt if they've sold a million records for their career.

    They would be the 2 PM inductee into the hall, and the bands that all their fans make fun of would be in prime time.
    Who is making a case?

    I think a HOF for music is in essence ridiculous, it's like a HOF for painters, subjective and biased based on personal taste.

    That said I'll listen to my music and enjoy the crap out of it for the rest of my life, that's my HOF, the only one that matters

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    Re: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2015 announced

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Who is making a case?

    I think a HOF for music is in essence ridiculous, it's like a HOF for painters, subjective and biased based on personal taste.

    That said I'll listen to my music and enjoy the crap out of it for the rest of my life, that's my HOF, the only one that matters
    There you go being spot on again.

    You are actually correct and for art, it's impossible to have a hall of fame with defined criteria...because it means different things to different people.

    I am just rattling the cage lol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    I will never understand people that say phish is a dead copycat.

    They sound absolutely nothing alike.

    Trey sounds more like Les Dudek or Santana than Jerry.
    Their sound isn't the point; their whole career path has been constructed to attract Deadheads. I don't mind their sound, but if that were all there was to them, they wouldn't be in the conversation. Their identity revolves around their being the New Dead.

    I parked in front of an indy bookstore today while doing Christmas shopping, and the car in front of me had both a Phish sticker and the classic DeadHead sticker on the back, along with several political/cultural stickers. This is pretty typical, and that's fine. My point is that the band has forged an identity which depends largely on the identity of another band, and they have also created a following that imputes what I think is a borrowed gravitas to the group.
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