Originally Posted by Dan
Where is this glut of which you speak? I know it not.
Where is this glut of which you speak? I know it not.
nmculbreth (09-02-2015)
Are they protected from loss period, or would they forfeit their next pick after the first round pick? I was remembering the latter, but I'm not sure.
Last edited by Gallen5862; 08-27-2015 at 04:18 PM.
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Um, I meant "dearth." That's what I get for posting without alcohol.
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corkedbat (08-27-2015),nmculbreth (09-02-2015)
Protected from loss period. The team losing the player gets a pick at the end of the first round but it doesn't cost the signing team if they are in the top ten.
99% of all numbers only tell 33% of the story so when looking at the numbers remember that numbers is plural...
Jake, I'm pretty sure when picking in the top ten you lose your next highest pick when signing a comp FA. So for the Reds that would be their competitive pick A they received.
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REDREAD (08-27-2015)
I looked it up and you are right. I'm not sure about the next highest however, reading the rules it seems they would surrender their 2nd rounder, but keep the comp pick
99% of all numbers only tell 33% of the story so when looking at the numbers remember that numbers is plural...
I recall it applying to the 2013 Yankees offseason. The lost picks kept changing as they lost and gained picks with Cano and Granderson leaving and then signing Beltran, Ellsbury and McCann. I'm not sure how it would work with a top ten protected team though.
"When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch." - Ty Cobb
Code:Philadelphia Phillies 52 78 .400 GB Miami Marlins 52 78 .400 - Colorado Rockies 51 76 .402 2 Cincinnati Reds 53 75 .414 2 Milwaukee Brewers 54 75 .419 3.5 Atlanta Braves 54 75 .419 4 Oakland Athletics 56 74 .431 5 Boston Red Sox 60 69 .465 7.5 Detroit Tigers 60 69 .465 9.5 Seattle Mariners 61 69 .469 9 Chicago White Sox 60 68 .469 9 San Diego Padres 62 67 .481 11 Cleveland Indians 62 66 .484 8.5
Ties are broken by which team had a worse record in 2014. Reds would hold tiebreaker advantage over: Detroit, Tampa, San Diego, Seattle, Atlanta, Cleveland, Oakland, and Miami. As of today the Reds would pick 4th. Top Ten are protected from loss if Qualifying Offer FA is signed.
Last edited by Gallen5862; 08-30-2015 at 11:00 AM.
I will say I'm really looking forward to the draft next year when the Reds have 3 of the first ~40 picks. Time to stock up on position players.
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Code:Philadelphia Phillies 53 83 .390 GB Atlanta Braves 54 82 .397 1 Cincinnati Reds 55 78 .414 3 Miami Marlins 56 80 .412 3 Colorado Rockies 56 78 .418 3.5 Oakland Athletics 58 77 .430 5 Milwaukee Brewers 59 75 .440 5.5 Detroit Tigers 62 73 .459 9 Boston Red Sox 63 72 .467 9 Seattle Mariners 64 71 .474 9 Chicago White Sox 64 70 .478 9.5 San Diego Padres 65 69 .485 11.5 Cleveland Indians 65 68 .489 12
Ties are broken by which team had a worse record in 2014. Reds would hold tiebreaker advantage over: Detroit, Tampa, San Diego, Seattle, Atlanta, Cleveland, Oakland, and Miami. As of today the Reds would pick 3rd. Top Ten are protected from loss if Qualifying Offer FA is signed.
Last edited by Gallen5862; 09-05-2015 at 10:44 PM.
Ties are broken by which team had a worse record in 2014. Reds would hold tiebreaker advantage over: Detroit, Tampa, San Diego, Seattle, Atlanta, Cleveland, Oakland, and Miami. As of today the Reds would pick 4th. Top Ten are protected from loss if Qualifying Offer FA is signed.Code:Philadelphia Phillies 53 84 .387 GB Atlanta Braves 54 83 .394 1.0 Colorado Rockies 56 80 .412 2.5 Cincinnati Reds 56 79 .415 4.0 Miami Marlins 57 80 .416 4.0 Oakland Athletics 58 79 .423 5.0 Milwaukee Brewers 60 76 .441 7.5 Detroit Tigers 62 74 .456 8.5 Boston Red Sox 64 72 .471 9.5 Chicago White Sox 65 70 .481 11
Last edited by Gallen5862; 09-07-2015 at 05:36 PM.
It's early yet, but Chaminade CF Blake Rutherford is considered the third-best prospect in the 2016 draft as of now. Rutherford looks to have the wheels to stick in CF, but his plus arm may push him to RF. According to Kiley McDaniel, he's a plus runner with above average tools across the board. Long way to go, but I'd love to see a talent like that added to the Reds' farm.
Yes. Rutherford or Nick Banks are my early favorites. The best bats available that also happen to be OF. The only part of that scouting report I don't understand is why, if someone had the wheels to stick in CF, would their superior arm push them to RF? Wouldn't you always rather have the superior fielder (arm included) in CF if they could stick there?
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REDREAD (09-07-2015)
Reposting this from tORG:
Over the past 10 years, here's how many wins each of the top 10 picks averaged:
If the Reds finish 12-14, they'll end up with a 68-94 record. The last time a team with less than 69 wins didn't get a top-5 pick was in 2004, so that doesn't happen very often. Even if they get on a hot streak and go 18-8, they're likely to end up with one of the protected picks.Code:PICK 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 WINS 58.4 63.3 65.5 67.2 68.5 70.6 71.5 73.5 74.0 74.7
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Ties are broken by which team had a worse record in 2014. Reds would hold tiebreaker advantage over: Detroit, Tampa, San Diego, Seattle, Atlanta, Cleveland, Oakland, and Miami. As of today the Reds would pick 5th. Top Ten are protected from loss if Qualifying Offer FA is signed.Code:Philadelphia Phillies 54 85 .388 GB Atlanta Braves 55 84 .396 1.0 Miami Marlins 57 81 .413 3.5 Colorado Rockies 57 80 .416 3.5 Cincinnati Reds 57 80 .416 4.5 Oakland Athletics 59 79 .428 5.0 Milwaukee Brewers 61 76 .445 7.5 Detroit Tigers 63 74 .460 8.5 Boston Red Sox 65 73 .471 9.5 Chicago White Sox 65 71 .478 11
Last edited by Gallen5862; 09-08-2015 at 11:24 PM.
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