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    Re: Rolling Stone top 100 songwriters

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    This site (Songwriting HOF) lists 18 pages of songs from Barry:

    http://songwritershalloffame.org/ind...led/C168/P320/

    I noticed that that site gives Manilow credit for his 1975 hit "I Write the Songs". I can remember when that was the song of the year and it was credited to Bruce Johnston. BM produced it but that's not the same

    I will say that most of those are not ones I recognize so there's that. But his writing partner Marty Panzer wrote a lot of his big hits as well as very recognizable Disney hits:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_Panzer

    If RS isn't including Irving Berlin then they ought to better define their list

    It does make for great conversation which I'm sure is what they wanted all along...
    It does make for great conversation. I love the disagreement over Taylor Swift. I find it fascinating. Because she means to someone who is 20 what Madonna meant to me at 20.

    There has to be some criteria they used somewhere- though you are right, they say "Of All Time..."


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    Re: Rolling Stone top 100 songwriters

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    I used to let these lists get me bent out of shape, but now they only mildly annoy me. Music is such a personal thing. I can't stand 80s Madonna, but if it makes you happy, I suppose I shouldn't pick on it.

    That being said, there are some glaring omissions and odd choices. If pop music is going to be allowed on the list, then I'm not sure why Jeff Lynne is missing from the top 10, let alone the top 100. If classic rock is allowed on the list, then Plant/Page need to be there along with all four of the guys from Queen (who general wrote songs individually). I know that what he did wasn't always "song" writing, but I'd still stack Frank Zappa's best 20 or so 4-minute songs up against just about everyone on this list. Roger Waters? Dave Grohl?
    Excellent call on Lynne/ELO. I totally overlooked that they were missing.

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    Re: Rolling Stone top 100 songwriters

    Every generation thinks their songwriters (and singers) were the best. Familiarity relates to believing something is quality. How else do you explain Bengals' fans?
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    Re: Rolling Stone top 100 songwriters

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    Every generation thinks their songwriters (and singers) were the best. Familiarity relates to believing something is quality. How else do you explain Bengals' fans?
    Irving Berlin and Richard Rodgers isn't my generation but they deserve to be in the top 100

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    Re: Rolling Stone top 100 songwriters

    Rolling Stone is most likely ranking from a rock era standpoint.

    Mozart and Chopin aren't on the list either, both would be better than Tom T Hall.

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    Re: Rolling Stone top 100 songwriters

    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Heffner View Post
    Rolling Stone is most likely ranking from a rock era standpoint.

    Mozart and Chopin aren't on the list either, both would be better than Tom T Hall.
    I see your point, but Woody Guthrie is on this list. Irving Berlin kept writing for at least a few years after Guthrie's death. I'm not sure you can have one on the list and not the other.
    Stick to your guns.

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    Re: Rolling Stone top 100 songwriters

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili View Post
    I see your point, but Woody Guthrie is on this list. Irving Berlin kept writing for at least a few years after Guthrie's death. I'm not sure you can have one on the list and not the other.
    Maybe the people making the list feel the same way about Irving Berlin that I do? Nah, that doesn't work. I do prefer tunes over bombast, however. otoh, John Philip Sousa's marches are good bombast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Heffner View Post
    Rolling Stone is most likely ranking from a rock era standpoint.

    Mozart and Chopin aren't on the list either, both would be better than Tom T Hall.
    But did they write songs?
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    Re: Rolling Stone top 100 songwriters

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili View Post
    I see your point, but Woody Guthrie is on this list. Irving Berlin kept writing for at least a few years after Guthrie's death. I'm not sure you can have one on the list and not the other.
    Fair enough....

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    Re: Rolling Stone top 100 songwriters

    Roger Waters doesn't make the list at all? Preposterous.
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    Re: Rolling Stone top 100 songwriters

    If you subscribe to Apple Music, there's a playlist based on the top-100-songwriters list. It's a good listen if your musical tastes are all over the ballpark.
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    Re: Rolling Stone top 100 songwriters

    Anyone think Patterson Hood deserves consideration?
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    Re: Rolling Stone top 100 songwriters

    Branching into some other genres would bring you a lot of excellent songwriters. I think Rich Mullins would stack up well against anyone for songwriting talent, but he'll never make any of these lists because of his narrower audience.
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