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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    This is a learning experience for Lamb. He's definitely having a harder time putting guys away than what he was used in the lower levels and that's leading to some walks. When he figures things out in the bigs I think we're going to see outs instead of all these walks and even some hits when he gives in a little. It's not as simple as just throwing fewer pitches and walking fewer guys. Quick out there helps!

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    So clearly, the answer is to get MLB to shorten games to 6 innings. Problem solved.
    Then we'd never get to see Chapman pitch.
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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

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    Waiting on WOY to post about Norm Van Lisberger and his 52 pitch shutout of the Brooklyn Bagshaws back in 1873.
    LOL. Just shot diet coke out of my nose on that one. Perfect. :O)

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Left-handers are wierd? Barry Zito disagrees.

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

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    Best pitcher in the 90s: Maddux or Pedro. Go!
    Answering my own question:

    If I imagined God having a team, his starting five would have Pedro in it and Maddux is on the bubble.
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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    2 out walk to the pitcher for BB #6, you could see Lamb frustrated at himself on that one.
    I dont care, Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. Hes in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    BBBBBB


    I hope I NEVER type that again as long as I live. Ugh.

    The Cards have to be kicking themselves. To have 6 walks in 4 innings and they STILL haven't scored?!? It's kind of impressive the amount of futility on display.

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Best pitcher in the 90s: Maddux or Pedro. Go!
    Pedro's best year was 2000...so Maddux.

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Hook View Post
    This is a learning experience for Lamb. He's definitely having a harder time putting guys away than what he was used in the lower levels and that's leading to some walks. When he figures things out in the bigs I think we're going to see outs instead of all these walks and even some hits when he gives in a little. It's not as simple as just throwing fewer pitches and walking fewer guys. Quick out there helps!
    Think I read the Pirates train starting pitchers to get outs within three pitches.

    A starter has to find a way to be reasonably pitch efficient.

    Lamb's pitches mount up with the Ks. But he doesn't get easy outs against the other guys.

    Twice this game he had potentially easy innings and extended them. That last inning walking the pitcher.

    If he's going to start, he has to fix this, or else he'll be in the bullpen. He'd be a good reliever IMO.

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Man, I want Lamb to be good. There's so much there, and such a fine line.
    And no birds sing - Keats

    The ditch is nearer - Lowell

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Think I read the Pirates train starting pitchers to get outs within three pitches.

    A starter has to find a way to be reasonably pitch efficient.

    Lamb's pitches mount up with the Ks. But he doesn't get easy outs against the other guys.

    Twice this game he had potentially easy innings and extended them. That last inning walking the pitcher.

    If he's going to start, he has to fix this, or else he'll be in the bullpen. He'd be a good reliever IMO.
    I mean, I get what you're saying, but it's 6 starts so far, his first ever taste of the big leagues. I don't see the reason to roll the discard bin up to the stage.
    I dont care, Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. Hes in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Quote Originally Posted by '69 & Vine View Post
    Pedro's best year was 2000...so Maddux.
    True, but his 97-99 weren't exactly too shabby.

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    He'd be a good reliever IMO.
    Not unless he fixes the walks. Starter OR reliever.

    Prior to tonight I don't recall walks being much of an issue with Lamb. But he's making up for it tonight.

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Closer look

    ERA+ Maddux 170, Pedro 158

    Maddux (I know they don't matter but....) 70 more wins

    4 ERA titles to 2 for Maddux

    Maddux 5x led innings pitched Pedro 0

    Maddux twice as many shutouts

    Maddux strikeout to walk leader 3x

    and if a tie breaker needed....Maddux 10 gold gloves in the 90's

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    True, but his 97-99 weren't exactly too shabby.
    Pedro's 97-03 were probably the best 7 year run a pitcher not named Koufax has ever had. And even Koufax was only 5 years.

    But yeah, I specified 90s, so maybe Maddux going great for the whole decade trumps that.
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