Still chilly but the atmospheric physics would work.Originally Posted by Sea Ray
Still chilly but the atmospheric physics would work.
Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. -- Carl Sagan (Pale Blue Dot)
Bermuda Triangle Theories
Howard, an expert on Bermuda Triangle, claims that more than 50 ships and 20 planes have disappeared in the Bermuda Triangle over the last century itself, and up to 1000 over the past 500 years. So how did the planes and ships disappear? What went wrong? Actually there is no single theory that can explain all disappearances. The planes and ships have been victims of different circumstances & situations while cruising over the vast triangle area and were in different physical locations. And therefore there are several theories that explain the different incidents of missing ships and planes in Bermuda Triangle. Here are some of the top and most popular theories that try to explain and solve the mysteries.
Methane Gas Theory
Large amount of methane gas is known to exist below the ocean floor trapped in the sediments in form of methane hydrates. If such gas finds its way out and starts rising through the water, it can significantly reduce the density of water in that area. And ships passing over that area can sink in no time. Such gas release can also create explosions and saturate the atmosphere with methane gas causing planes to crash. Check out Methane Gas Theory for details.
The Sargasso Sea
Sargasso sea is a strange area within Bermuda Triangle that has no shores but bounded by ocean currents on all sides. This has been the trap for many sailing vessels in the past. Many sailing boats and ships are believed to have become completely motionless while passing through this area and later found in derelict conditions without a soul on them. Dense seaweed on water surface and exceptionally low winds have been the main cause of making vessels motionless in this area. Check out Sargasso Sea for more information about the incidents and their causes.
Gulf Stream
The Gulf Stream is an ocean current that originates in the Gulf of Mexico, and then moves through the Straits of Florida, into the North Atlantic and passes through Bermuda Triangle area. It is like a river within an ocean and can easily carry floating objects along its flow. A small plane making a water landing or a boat having engine trouble will be easily carried away. It happened to the cabin cruiser Witchcraft on December 22, 1967, when it reported engine trouble near the Miami buoy marker one mile from shore, but was not there when a Coast Guard cutter arrived.
Electronic Fog: A Hutchison effect
It has been heard several times that ships and aircraft get engulfed in some kind of electronic fog and the fog keeps moving along with the ship or the plane. And eventually, all the electronic equipment and other instruments start malfunctioning. Then the ships and airplanes either disintegrate or disappear without a trace. Vancouver based scientist John Hutchison through his experiments has shown occurrence of Electronic Fog that causes some strange phenomena.
Compass Variation
Do you know that magnetic and absolute North are not the same. Which means that the north where a compass points and the absolute geographic north which is the north pole are different. So ships need to make adjustment for this difference to keep to the right direction. But in Bermuda Triangle, there is a narrow strip where both these North's become the same. Some claim that such Compass Variation could have been the cause for fatal accidents as ships failed to determine the correct direction.
Strange Weather & Hurricanes
At times there are violent storms in the Bermuda Triangle area. These short but intense storms can build up quickly and go away so fast that even a satellite can't detect them properly. But these storms are strong enough to destroy ships or planes completely. There are also waterspouts seen in this area. A waterspout is like a tornado at sea that sucks water from the ocean thousands of feet into the sky.
Hurricanes are extremely powerful swirling storms that sometimes appear in the Atlantic near the equator. They usually originate from south eastern Atlantic and pass through the Bermuda Triangle area towards the south eastern coast of the US. June to November is the time when possibility of such hurricane occurring is the most. Such hurricanes have historically been the cause for loss of many lives and extensive damage. The sinking of Francisco de Bobadilla's Spanish fleet in 1502 was the first recorded instance of such destructive hurricane. Hurricanes have in the past caused a number of fatal damages to the sailing vessels passing through the area.
Freak Waves
Very large waves can appear suddenly even in calm seas. One such rogue wave caused the Ocean Ranger, then the world's largest offshore platform to capsize in 1982. Research has shown that freak waves up to 30m high & capable of sinking a large ship within moments, can and do happen. Although these are very rare, in some areas ocean currents indicate that they happen more often than normal.
Unusual Seafloor
The seafloor in Bermuda Triangle area is also found to be quite strange. There are some unusual formations. From a gentle slope it takes a sudden deep drop. In fact, some of the deepest trenches in the world are found in this area. Ships or planes that sink into these deep trenches will probably never be found.
Human Error
Human mistakes can not be ruled out in this area. More so because the vast water area in Bermuda Triangle has so many islands that look so similar. It is easy to make a mistake confusing one with another. And in such confusion if the captain takes a wrong turn or direction, then he can slowly but surely get to such water area where it would be too late to turn back and reach a land to refuel. And then eventually it'll be a question of how long the ship can sustain the foul weather.
Supernatural Theories
There are also explanations based on some supernatural theories like the lost city of Atlantis, UFOs and Aliens. Check out Supernatural Theories to know about such explanations that try to explain the disappearances.
Skeptic's Theory
And like in any other subject, there are skeptics and critics here who do not believe that Bermuda Triangle area has any mystery to be solved at all. They say there is nothing unusual about all these disappearances... it's nothing different from any other ocean area where such incidents also take place in similar numbers, and most can be explained with science or some logic. Check out the Skeptics Theory to find out what the skeptics of Bermuda Triangle have to say.
And, there are many more explanations...
Strange magnetic fields from the bottom of the ocean causing compass to malfunction, pirates capturing ships, explosive cargo destroying vessels etc are also believed to be other causes. Another possibility is underwater earthquakes. Scientists have actually observed a great deal of seismic vibrations taking place in the Bermuda triangle area and under the seafloor.
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I subscribe to the Skeptics Theory. There's a lot of weather in that area as well as a lot of traffic. I've taken cruises that cut through this triangle and I didn't feel the least bit unsafe. Would any of you turn down a free cruise to the Bahamas because of this fear?
Large bodies of water can make it very difficult to find objects. There's also a Lake Michigan or Great Lakes Triangle where some claim disappearances outnumber Bermuda. It happens in all sorts of large bodies of water
WrongVerb (10-23-2015)
My point was really that people don't watch TV to get weather information anymore. I wasn't aware they were now owned by WC. Anyway, what I recall about Wunderground was that they were early in crowd sourcing weather data. That and Windfinder (or Windalert) are good for me because I can look at the conditions at several weather stations in my region to see whether the forecast and the actual data coincide.
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Fascinating thread. I actually live in the lake effect snow belt and it is amazing how I can get 12"s of snow and drive 2 miles east and there be nothing at all and sunshine. But as an avid fisherman I keep a very close eye on the barometric pressure. Seems like it has a big effect on whether fish bite or not.
I've enjoyed Wunderground for many years. I hope WC doesn't screw it up.
I'm still traditional in that I do seek weather on my TV. I'm not into smart phones
I like Wundermap because it is one of the very few sources I know of (Penn State weather wall is another) that I can find European weather model data. The GFS, put out by the NWS, does a fine job, but the Europeans for some reason do just a little better, especially in winter forecasting. For instance, the European was the first model to track Joaquin out to sea instead of impacting the eastern seaboard a couple weeks ago. This is not uncommon, either.
Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. -- Carl Sagan (Pale Blue Dot)
Tropicl Tidbits is another good model site, and has the Euro:
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analy...pos=0&ypos=500
Last edited by klw; 10-23-2015 at 01:18 PM.
I get mine from NOAA, for the most part. But, like the Buffalo area, Portland is in a unique position where all of the weather data out there can't predict it's weather accurately.....not really close at all. Every meteorologist in the area agrees on this. Personal experience and guessing by local meteorologists gets better results than those who follow computer models too strictly. The computer models are wrong more than they are right around here. Trying to predict three days in advance around here is nearly impossible. The night before is difficult enough. Most of the time the models can't predict in the morning what will happen in the afternoon.
The major problem they all agree on is the weather that comes from the East through the funnel of the Columbia Gorge out of the Columbia Basin. While most of the weather comes from the West, Northwest and Southwest, it's coming off of the Ocean unobstructed, then is blocked by the Cascade Range, the Olympic Peninsula, effected from the South by the Willamette Valley, and then everything gets tossed into a swirl from what flows through the funnel of the Columbia Gorge.
It seems to change year by year which weatherman is better at predicting the weather around here, but I definitely pay attention to the one I believe does the best job. He's likely to be much more accurate than any computer model anyone can come up with.
Last edited by Kingspoint; 10-23-2015 at 06:41 PM.
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I just turned on the Weather Channel expecting to get live coverage of Patricia and it's a Weather Underground show with talking heads showing Instagram videos of the storm. Is it because the hurricane is in Mexico and not the US that they don't have anyone on the ground?
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
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Same here. I was pretty disappointed by the lack of coverage.
They were covering it non stop up until 8pm. They were taking a much needed break. We had it on as we were preparing for a large party last night. It got repetitive
Now you know something else about Sea Ray. I'm sure you're surprised that I don't spend all of my waking hours thinking of ways that I can screw the black man...
We all know that's Bob Sheed.
Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. -- Carl Sagan (Pale Blue Dot)
There are definitely micro-climates that are very difficult to forecast for. I live in one NE of SF. Basically the high temperature is either 75 or 95, depending on whether the desert air makes it this far west to push out the Pacific marine layer. At least we know it's not going to rain. LOL I can't imagine how difficult it must be up there around PDX.
Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. -- Carl Sagan (Pale Blue Dot)
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