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    Furniture is unnecessary. Just ask the Japanese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yachtzee View Post
    Furniture is unnecessary. Just ask the Japanese.
    That sucks. I can actually make furniture.

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    So what you are saying is that everyone who isn't a coal miner, lumberjack, etc. is really just a middle-man leeching off the system. Unless you are directly involved in the production of either raw material or durable goods, you're a leech. You "produce nothing to the overall economy other than pushing money around".
    In the simplest form, that's about right.

    Everyone's ego wants them to believe that they contribute as much to society (falsely associating this with "they are as important to society", where all people are equally important) as the next person, but that's simply not true. Most people produce/contribute very little, and are part of the masses who ride the gravy train of the smaller percentage who contribute the most.

    Don't confuse "what you contribute/produce economically" with "how important you are". You'll either feel ashamed for contributing so little, or have too swollen of a head for your own good.

    Be OK with being someone who just pushes money around. It's what most of us do today. Few of us have the honor of being a great economic contributor to society. Some of us have to work in Human Resources. Some of us have to sell products. Some of us get to raise livestock. (Canada just passed a law that all egg farms must have cage-free hens, but it will take 20 years to fully implement.) While one's profession is not equally important, their life and liberty are. You do what you've got to do to make a living. You can't look down at someone at what they do, as long as they are honest in their business dealings (which means dealing with people as individuals, and not hiding behind policies and calling that honesty).

    Fortunately, there's other areas we can contribute to society if we aren't doing much economically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    In the simplest form, that's about right.

    Everyone's ego wants them to believe that they contribute as much to society (falsely associating this with "they are as important to society", where all people are equally important) as the next person, but that's simply not true. Most people produce/contribute very little, and are part of the masses who ride the gravy train of the smaller percentage who contribute the most.

    Don't confuse "what you contribute/produce economically" with "how important you are". You'll either feel ashamed for contributing so little, or have too swollen of a head for your own good.

    Be OK with being someone who just pushes money around. It's what most of us do today. Few of us have the honor of being a great economic contributor to society. Some of us have to work in Human Resources. Some of us have to sell products. Some of us get to raise livestock. (Canada just passed a law that all egg farms must have cage-free hens, but it will take 20 years to fully implement.) While one's profession is not equally important, their life and liberty are. You do what you've got to do to make a living. You can't look down at someone at what they do, as long as they are honest in their business dealings (which means dealing with people as individuals, and not hiding behind policies and calling that honesty).

    Fortunately, there's other areas we can contribute to society if we aren't doing much economically.
    But really, isn't an egg farmer just providing a service? They don't actually make the eggs, they just babysit the chickens and collect the eggs when the chickens are done doing what they do. A coal miner doesn't make the coal, they just dig it out of the ground. Isn't that just a service. A person working on the assembly line at the auto plant doesn't actually make a car, they just put the parts together, like a grown up version of playing with Legos. I would say that the people who actually "make" the car are the engineers, you know, the ones with actual knowledge of how internal combustion engines work, are the ones who make the car.

    If you want to talk about who is actually important economically, I'd say it's the inventors and engineers who actually come up with the ideas for the goods that we "produce" or "consume" and figure out the most efficient ways to get them to market. Anyone can be taught how to work an assembly line and put a car together. Any abled bodied person can be sent down into a coal mine to dig out coal. But there are few people who can actually come up with a design for a car and actually build it from the ground up. But I think to say that give one person all the credit for "producing" something just because they did the manual labor portion while someone in a nice office or design studio actually came up with the idea is just pushing money around is ridiculous. To give all the credit to a farmer or a fisherman for collecting the raw materials that go into our food but to say to the cooks, chefs, bakers, butchers etc. who actually convert those raw materials into stuff we can actually eat that they are just "pushing money around" just doesn't make sense. A modern economy is just way to complex to say that one group of people on the front end of making a product are the economically important "producers" and everyone else is "riding the gravy train." The fact that modern industries have automated much of that so-called "production" and made manual labor redundant is a signal that maybe the manual labor portion of production isn't as economically important as we thought, other than it gives people something to do for money.
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