http://www.si.com/more-sports/2011/06/08/ken-anderson
The HOF case for Ken Anderson
It's long, but a worthwhile read.
http://www.si.com/more-sports/2011/06/08/ken-anderson
The HOF case for Ken Anderson
It's long, but a worthwhile read.
Whatever you do, do your best to not allow the struggles of life to interfere with the pleasures of living.
RedsBaron (01-29-2017)
LOL....this guy!!!Originally Posted by SteelSD
A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor!
That was a good read. I've always felt that Anderson was underappreciated and I think that article demonstrated that he matched up pretty well versus his contemporaries (which is something I think we already knew even in 2011). That being said, I don't see him stacking up well enough against all QB's (numbers, accomplishments, etc.) to be much more than a look. Hall of Very Good.
"The problem with strikeouts isn't that they hurt your team, it's that they hurt your feelings..." --Rob Neyer
"The single most important thing for a hitter is to get a good pitch to hit. A good hitter can hit a pitch that’s over the plate three times better than a great hitter with a ball in a tough spot.”
--Ted Williams
So, do you agree with Sea Ray that having a great running game helps a QB's numbers? That's the opposite of your earlier point regarding Terrell Davis' effect on Elway. I also see that you didn't respond to the correlation data. Hmn.
"The problem with strikeouts isn't that they hurt your team, it's that they hurt your feelings..." --Rob Neyer
"The single most important thing for a hitter is to get a good pitch to hit. A good hitter can hit a pitch that’s over the plate three times better than a great hitter with a ball in a tough spot.”
--Ted Williams
Steel- it's just not a measurement of anything.
I dont know what else to tell you.
Other than there is an NFL referee who cant sleep at night and will take to the grave with him calls that changed the outcome of a Super Bowl.
Your Ben Roethlisberger fathead won't lose its adhesiveness, all is okay.
Save your essays for the Steeler's board.
Ben was not a top 10 QB in the NFL most years he played- so he's definitely not a top 10 QB of all time. And if he played better during the game, he wouldn't need to "come back."
This is your coach, man. I want you to stop and think about this for a bit. Just think about this and what an embarrassment this is to your city, your fans.
Look at this:
"The problem with strikeouts isn't that they hurt your team, it's that they hurt your feelings..." --Rob Neyer
"The single most important thing for a hitter is to get a good pitch to hit. A good hitter can hit a pitch that’s over the plate three times better than a great hitter with a ball in a tough spot.”
--Ted Williams
Interesting.
I was aware of several reported offers for Elway during the '83 draft, and also aware that Elway had eventually agreed to play for the Colts -- only to have Bob Irsay (One of the worst NFL owners of all-time), still bitter over Elway's initial snubbing of the Colts, go over the GM's head to engineer the deal of Elway to Denver. But I wasn't aware of this.
http://www.milehighreport.com/2013/4...to-the-raidersAccording to two people with knowledge of a potential pre-draft trade, the Colts had reached a deal to send the No. 1 pick of the 1983 draft to the Raiders -- only to have the deal blocked by NFL commissioner Pete Rozelle.
"We almost had Elway, but Pete Rozelle voided the trade," former Raiders personnel man Ron Wolf told The Star-Ledger last week. "We had the trade set up with Baltimore, but Pete wouldn't let it happen."
Rozelle and Raiders owner Davis spent many years in the 1980s in courtrooms over the Raiders' move from Oakland to Los Angeles, among other issues. Simply put, the two didn't like each other.
Ernie Accorsi, then the GM of the Colts, now the Giants' GM, confirmed a deal was in place with the Raiders that would have netted Baltimore an unprecedented three No. 1 picks and two No. 2s. One of the No. 1s, Accorsi said, would have been the sixth overall, which the Raiders had arranged to acquire from the Bears.
"Yeah, it's never been written, but I was going to make the deal only if it included getting back a top 10 pick," Accorsi said. "I wanted to make sure we still got (Hall of Fame quarterback) Dan Marino. I wasn't going to trade Elway for anything less than the best package ever."
Wolf said he didn't know the details of the almost-trade, but said he was was told by someone in the Colts' organization that "it was much better" than what Baltimore later received from the Broncos for Elway after the draft. That deal included back-up QB Mark Hermann, tackle Chris Hinton and a first-round draft pick.
Whatever you do, do your best to not allow the struggles of life to interfere with the pleasures of living.
^^^^^Wow. What an interesting story, Rev.
Vida Blue comes to mind with the Reds.
Revering4Blue (01-29-2017)
Excellent article.
In my prior post I said I thought Anderson should outrank Fouts, and that article reinforced that opinion. I also liked the term "deadball era" to apply to the NFL of 1970-77. Anyone who simply compares passing stats to that era to today's era as if the game hasn't changed lacks understanding.
However the article also caused me to revise my own opinion of Anderson. I no longer regard him to be a borderline HOF candidate. He clearly should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Case closed.
"Hey...Dad. Wanna Have A Catch?" Kevin Costner in "Field Of Dreams."
Revering4Blue (01-29-2017)
Interesting. The questionable integrity of the office of the NFL Commissioner has long roots.
"Hey...Dad. Wanna Have A Catch?" Kevin Costner in "Field Of Dreams."
The one stat Steel won't talk about!
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Had security block the door while he did it....just ick.
I've seen kids in Columbus in Roethlisberger jerseys - how do you just wave that off and move forward with indoctrinating your kid to love the guy?
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
I'm closing this thread for two reasons:
1) It has reached 1000 posts
2) The last several pages of posts have consisted of repeated baiting and flaming from multiple different directions.
Please start a new thread and refrain from personal attacks and baiting of users.
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