I think what he was referring to is that other coaches can't staff camps that aren't theirs. For example, Ohio State will have a camp, but most of the coaches are from Akron, Bowling Green, Miami, etc. That can't happen anymore and that is a disservice to most high school players who now may have to go to 5-10 different camps (on their own dime) instead of 2 or 3 to get noticed by a lot of coaches.Originally Posted by Sea Ray
This is a good thing actually for everyone.
The SEC was about to take this thing over in a major way and literally blow it up with excess and corporate sponsorship etc. Thats why the conferences overwhelmingly killed it. The NCAA will come out with a highly controlled version that allows kids to be seen but it'll be in a narrow window and much less over the top.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
Bingo. That is exactly what I was referencing. You said it better than I could have.
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Bingo. That is exactly what I was referencing. You said it better than I could have.
I get the intent, but once again they just didnt think.
I think you're making too much out of it. The NCAA just acted to prevent a bunch of chaos. It's not going to be a no for forever.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
Just FYI, 15% of Stanford's 2016 entering class is from the South East.... That's the highest percentage of any other region in the nation that compiles the class aside from California residents.
David Shaw was simply acting like a turd and he has since been forced to "clarify" his position.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
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I just find it funny that jojo is actually defending the South and their lack of education for once.
Actually, Todd. I seriously doubt you ever laugh. It's sad though that this is the thing you'd try to troll.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
I thought it was just about where the camps were held. Does t also limit the coaches who can attend? In other words can't Bowling Green, Akron and others attend a camp if it's in Columbus?
That's what I've been thinking as well. These third party camp operators can still hold showcase camps and invite college coaches (if it's within the NCAAs "evaluation period"). The college coaches just can't "work" these camps and get extra face-time.
I still can't help but think that the NCAA at least partly threw the baby out with the bath-water here. But I'm not totally sure what should have been done differently.
When all is said and done more is said than done.
I'm guessing there aren't more than a handfull of players on Shaw's team who are "actually" qualified to get into Stanford.
Also, I don't think we should assume that this is the final say on the camp issue by the NCAA.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
Absolutely not. Too many people have came out and questioned it. But I have the utmost faith that the NCAA will finally get it right.........NOT.
From my understanding, no they cannot. This rule says you can only hold a camp on your campus with your coaches.
Here is an article from an OSU site that goes over the release:
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/colleg...ve-immediately
"The Council approved a proposal applicable to the Football Bowl Subdivision that would require those schools to conduct camps and clinics at their school’s facilities or at facilities regularly used for practice or competition," the release said. "Additionally, FBS coaches and noncoaching staff members with responsibilities specific to football may be employed only at their school’s camps or clinics."
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