I'm hoping Olshey is setting things up to reach out and grab Tatum if he falls past 6. I'd love it if he found a way to move to 5 or 6 to grab Tatum.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
Just this year's #3 plus a future 1st (Lakers or Sacramento's).
From Rotoworld...
Updating a previous item, the Celtics are expected to receive the 2017 No. 3 pick and the 2018 Lakers picks with protections in exchange for the 2017 No. 1 pick, according to Adrian Wojnarowski of The Vertical.
If that Lakers pick doesn't convey with the protections next year, the Celtics will receive the 2019 Kings pick. The protections are still not clear, but the NBA changed its rules where unprotected picks acquired in previous deals can add protections, so the 76ers could have some protections on these unprotected assets. This report of only getting two picks is also coming from the Boston Globe and the Boston Herald. The trade call will be finalized on Monday.
Source: Adrian Wojnarowski on Twitter
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
I'm trying to picture the tall Fultz and Simmons vs the short C.J and Dame.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
An NBA Mock Draft by anyone, even the so-called experts, in this one-and-done/underclassman-centric era is an exercise in futility. May as well have fun with it. Last year, with many projected first-rounders (some, lottery projected) winding up in the second and vice-versa, was the wackiest in memory.
Ball to Dallas would be priceless with the LaVar and Cuban dynamic.Ball landing in Miami would amount to falling into a pile of manure (Falling precipitously in this draft) only to emerge smelling like a rose.
More thoughts:
A future front-line of Issac, Chriss and Bender...Man, that'd be scary in a few years.
Charlotte swinging for the fences, as you have them with the Anunoby pick, would be the first time that franchise has done so, which is one major reason why they've been stuck in a perpetual treadmill cycle.
Bradley and Bell have both been, reportedly rising up the draft charts. Bell. in particular, is interesting as, in addition to rim-protection, a good number of scouts view him as potentially capable of defending virtually any position on the floor. Ojeleye and Wilson are others of whom I believe will surprise.
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Blazers brought in on the 12th:
20.2-yr old PF/C Caleb Swanigan
19.9-yr old PF/C Thomas Bryant
23.4-yr old SG Antonius Cleveland
23.0-yr old SG Charles Cook
22.2-yr old PG Justin Robinson
20.0-yr old G Kobi Simmons
Monday is their last workout.
Bell and Rabb are supposed to be there. Would like to see Justin Jackson, Zach Collins, Jarrett Allen, Ike Anigbogu and Isaiah Hartenstein there.
I am very glad Markanen hasn't been here. I want nothing to do with him. He looks like a major bust to me.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
Here are a couple of Draft Day trade ideas -- both involving the Phoenix Suns, which, theoretically, can be executed in one night:
Bucks improve bench; Suns grab another top 20 pick.
To Bucks:
Jared Dudley
Pick #32
2018 2nd from Suns
To Suns:
Mirza Teletovic
Pick #17
Hornets add rim-protection, scoring punch at small forward, and a scoring, ball-handling option/compliment to take pressure off Kemba Walker; Suns add defensive-minded small forward who compliments their young existing forwards, an athletic option to tag-team with Alex Len, and a bigger, surprisingly efficient, shooting guard to spell Booker.
To Hornets
Tyson Chandler
Brandon Knight
TJ Warren
Pick #54
To Suns
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Jeremy Lamb
Cody Zeller
Yay or nay?
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Whatever you do, do your best to not allow the struggles of life to interfere with the pleasures of living.
Phoenix is putting together several good pieces that will grow together.
Bam is very much in play for Portland. He was very impressive in his workout here. He really stood out.
I wonder if Portland is hoping one of Bam, Patton, John Collins or other PF/C's they like are there at #20. Justin Jackson will not be. I still go with my original thought that they hold onto the #20 (maybe moving up 2-3 spots to a targeted player if they can/have to), and use #15, #26, future 1st's/2nd's and contracts (Crabbe/Leonard/Davis/Connaughton/Ezeli) to move up to a targeted player.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
Love the Hornets/Suns trade for both teams. Don't know enough about Teletovic to have an opinion.
Hornets are more built for winning now. What they get helps them much more than what they give away. Suns benefit well from this.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
Revering4Blue (06-18-2017)
I picked Isaac there because of the logjam Phoenix has at PG with Knight, Bledsoe, and Ulis, and the UK homer in me thinks Ulis could be the steal of last years draft.
In that situation though, Lonzo Ball would be a better fit in Phoenix having Booker to create for than Fox who is more of the lead guard.
I wouldn't characterize Anunoby as swinging for the fences though. He basically fits the Charlotte profile in a polished college player (Raymond Felton, Sean May, Frank Kaminsky, Cody Zeller, Kemba Walker).
Paul George surprises no one by announcing he isn't resigning with the Pacers.
When I see the 2016 Reds, I see a 100 loss team and no direction.
Yeah Pacers mgmt is in disarray with Bird stepping down, and every time George opens his mouth he further kills his trade value. Rumor has it Cleveland wants in but I have to think Indiana floated this rumor just to generate some interest to get the Lakers to come to the table to make a deal.
If you have a losing record at Reds games, please stop going.
That's so unprofessional, while back-stabbing a franchise that was nothing but good to you. No wonder Bird stepped down. Sick of dealing with players like George. I didn't want him before as a Blazer. I definitely don't want him now. Ainge would never bring a guy like him for as much as he would cost into the Celtics organization. Can't see Jerry West recommending him, either. He's destined to become a Laker. Pritchard may as well get what he can from the Lakers now and get rid of the guy. He'll be lucky to get a future 1st Rd pick. They will get a better draft pick next year if they get rid of him now and all of his minutes can be used for development. Get rid of everyone 26+ years of age now and give those minutes to the future while getting a better draft pick next season.
I'm so sorry to hear that. Pritchard and the Pacers deserve better. Pritchard will figure it out.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
BTW, teams don't agree to a deal five days before the draft unless one of them needs it done in order to make another deal with the acquired draft pick(s). Boston is definitely trying to trade what they just acquired from Philly before the draft is over. Since they have #37, #53 & #56, it's not for anyone in the 2nd or bottom of the first as they could move up to acquire that. There could be someone projected 5-20 that they want and may as well pay the correct price for him. Or, they may want to make sure they can get the blockbuster player they want, such as Anthony Davis, by sending four 1st's, two of which would be very good thanks to this trade, so they can skip drafting a Center. How can New Orleans not take four 1st's, since they have failed miserably to make use of Davis anyway and are still years away from doing so? Start over again with a goldmine of assets to build a new foundation.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
It's going to be very difficult for the East to keep the Sixers out of the playoffs. I know teams in the NBA don't make huge jumps in one season, but there's no reason why their goal can't be the #4 seed. Boston, Cleveland and Washington should be 1-3. Miami, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, and depending what happens in the Draft, Trades and Free Agency, Toronto, Chicago, Detroit and Charlotte will fight it out for 4-10. Knicks, Pacers, Nets, Orlando and Atlanta are all in either major rebuild or rudderless.
Philly could make themselves more balanced by acquiring one of only two players who shot 300+ Three's @ 44%+ last season. (Korver is the other) The #36 or #39 pick would probably do it. That still gives them three more 2nd's. Paul Allen would probably rather keep him for one more year if he couldn't get #36, as Olshey can still get under the cap and avoid tax for this season and thus the double-tax kicker when he'll surely be over the cap in '18-'19. Philly can absorb Crabbe's salary for at least two of the three years left on it, and it may not seem like so much by then for a sharpshooter who can space the floor like no other. Sixers need spacing. Simmons and Furtz will take shots away from Covington and Saric, but neither of them can come close to shooting as well as Crabbe, who has improved his FG% each of his years in the league.
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