Our offense isn't very good. The D has been good enough that we should have won 2 of these 3 straight road games.
However, a microcosm of the 3rd down issues, 3rd and 12 deep in their own territory in the 4th qtr. and Burfict sprints backwards, giving the TE time to get to the sticks and catch a timing pass. Who would teach that technique?
"Rounding 3rd and heading for home, good night everybody"
They're a bad team. We knew that before the game and we know it now. What's new is that we now know the Broncos are worse than us.Originally Posted by WrongVerb
Mike Brown sucks and all but the grass isn't always greener when you leave Cincinnati. Granted Zimmer looks like a helluva coach and I'd love to see him here, but three other former Bengal coaches I have no interest seeing as a head coach here in Cincinnati: Vance Joseph, Jay Gruden and Hue Jackson. That's one out four. Not bad if you're Mike Brown and defending who he "let go". Gruden looked very Marvin-like in allowing a 15 pt lead to vanish in 3 mins today.
How 'bout the technique of our 4 down linemen on defense and one of the four is a yard deep? How long have we been doing that? What's the point in putting a hand down on the ground in a 3 pt stance if you do that?
Nightmare scenario unfolding - Bengals limp to 7 wins, second wild card is 8-8 and Marvin gets a new contract because he "kept the team in it"...
One thing I learned a long time ago with Mike Brown, records don't matter. He's kept horrible coaches after horrible seasons. I used to think like you do and wished for complete meltdowns so that we'd see massive change. After a few Dave Shula seasons I decided I might as well enjoy the wins like any Bengal fan and Mike Brown will do what he does regardless.
It's a good sign that we haven't heard about any contract extensions. IMO Marvin will come out and say something like he's ready for a break from coaching and is stepping down. This will save MB the "pain" of firing his good pal. Like you, I'll be hugely disappointed if Marvin is back next yr along with most of his staff.
Hoosier Red (11-20-2017),Revering4Blue (11-21-2017)
I’m looking more for he’s shopping around with other teams in the offseason and MB bites and gives him an extension.
And that Brock Osweiler is a historically bad NFL bad QB that is made worse in that someone gave him a $70M contract. What's even worse, is that the Browns are paying $15.25M of his $16M this year. "Stupid is as stupid does."
"Rounding 3rd and heading for home, good night everybody"
Revering4Blue (11-21-2017)
I'm only seeing one more win for The Bengals this season. And that's the Browns.
Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. -- Carl Sagan (Pale Blue Dot)
Browns. Bears at home. That's 6. They can luck into one more somewhere. That's seven.
The Bengals have 4 home games left, and a tilt against the Ravens to end the season. I think they can win up to four games the remainder of the season.
The Brockweiler is garbage, but the Bronco's have a legit defense. I thought the line played better yesterday that they have all season long.
The Bengals are far from a good team, but they have a chance to make the remaining games somewhat interesting.
I think at the level they are playing at right now, they could lose to the Bears.
They'll definitely lose to the Steelers and Vikings. Everything else at least plausibly could go either way, but this is a team that can't run the ball or keep the other offense off the field, so I think they'll lose out other than the Browns and maybe one other fluke win.
5-11 or 6-10 looks about right.
Next year we'll see Hue back as head coach. I don't know if it's what I want, but I think it's the best bet of what's going to happen. Given his comments today I think he's done in Cleveland.
Edited to add they could plausibly also lose to the Browns, I'm just making best guesses here.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Of course they CAN lose out - it’s just that I don’t think they will. They will win just enough to see them defend keeping Marvin. They are a terrible team - but at 4-6 now, with enough home games and fellow bad teams still left - 7-9 is very possible.
Well, that's what those words mean. He was here. If they don't keep him, he will have been lost/subtracted. I headed out the door today with two shoes on my feet. If I don't return with them, I have lost them. If I do return with them, I haven't added them. ---M2
The local media is talking up how they can still make the playoffs but they're forgetting one thing: They're a bad football team. They're not going to beat the Steelers on MNF. They're not going to all of a sudden become a decent team. They're just not talented enough or coached well enough
Chip R (11-20-2017)
I've never seen a team where I feel like it's coaching as much as this one.
They do the things game after game that are so hard to figure out.
The thing about Marvin Lewis that is not excusable (well, maybe one thing) is that he forces things. He doesn't take what another team gives, he wants to impose their will on the other team. Instead of game planning around what the players on the roster do well, they try to make them fit the system.
The best example of this is Gio Bernard running between the tackles (plus the lack of ideas on how to use Gio at all lately.)
Another thing I've seen pointed out on Twitter is how much they line up under center, which doesn't fit their bad offensive line or Andy Dalton's weaknesses at all.
I feel like they have actually have enough talent to finish 4-2 (even with good coaching I wouldn't expect them to beat the Steelers or Vikings), but I expect 1-5.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
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