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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    I don't see it happening in Portland just yet. Too many other things the city is going to do before they sink any of their cash into that venture.
    Blazers shot down Phil Knight's $2B bid, wonder if he's a baseball fan......it would take mostly private money to make it work in PDX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VR View Post
    Blazers shot down Phil Knight's $2B bid, wonder if he's a baseball fan......it would take mostly private money to make it work in PDX.
    Yes, plus the city government is going to get restructured in the next year so nobody is going to bite at anything that big until the smoke clears from that

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    I am a season ticket holder of the Tampa Bay Rays. Going to Tropicana is a horror show. It is the worst baseball experience ever. I understand why fans stay away. It is a difficult game to live the sight lines are poor, almost lose every flyball in the roof.
    The baseball operations is great the business side is about as good as the 2022 Reds on the field. The ownership is about as bad as the Reds.

    I had issues with getting season tickets the staff was not flexible and helpful. Since everything is electronic like tickets and the stadium is cashless it causes issues. My own personal issues is that my tickets for opening day did not show up in the MLB app like it should. I had a had time getting in it took an it specialist after going through 3 others that could not help me to find a back door to get access to my ticket to be scanner to get in the game.

    It is a complete mess to be to games for some reason the police park their cars cutting off lanes around the park going to the parking lots which takes 3 lanes down to 2 and others from 2 to 1. This creates much larger traffic issues.

    ST Pete is real hard to get to anyway because of geography. Where the Tampa Bay Lightning and Tampa Buccaneers plays has nearly a million more people that has access to their stadiums than people have for the Rays.

    Tropicana has so little amenities and things to do compared to other places. It is also hard to get around in the stadium. And a bunch of the places where there are the food stands are like dark dank basement atmosphere.

    On opening day the OF mens bathroom had huge lines because it only has 2 urinals which is crazy for a stadium.
    Question for you, would a new stadium help the cause or not? If it was located correctly?

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    Montreal and Portland are bad choices period. Im not sold on Nashville either but maybe there is enough of a base for that.

    Vegas for sure should be the next market no question.

    What ever happened to the talks of a team in Mexico?

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    Quote Originally Posted by plantmanky View Post
    Montreal and Portland are bad choices period. Im not sold on Nashville either but maybe there is enough of a base for that.

    Vegas for sure should be the next market no question.

    What ever happened to the talks of a team in Mexico?
    Portland could do it, Vegas meh, ever spend more than a week there? Can’t see it myself

    But money talks and Vegas is all about that

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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Portland could do it, Vegas meh, ever spend more than a week there? Can’t see it myself

    But money talks and Vegas is all about that
    Portland would be fantastic. They would the follow the team like they do the Blazers, Thorns, and Timbers…….rabid.
    The sad part is the city and county are FLUSH with money, but no political will.


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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Portland could do it, Vegas meh, ever spend more than a week there? Can’t see it myself

    But money talks and Vegas is all about that
    I hope the games won't last quite that long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plantmanky View Post
    Question for you, would a new stadium help the cause or not? If it was located correctly?
    Yes it would. They even have the studies here about the market if you move the stadium to the same side of the bay as where the Lightning and Buccaneers play it will be much better.
    But you need to make a nice stadium that is a fun fan experience. i went to Truist field this year in Atlanta and it is a way nicer fan experience.
    I am a baseball fan first and it is much better experience going to Lightning games than Rays games. I will spend $200 to go to a lightning game before I spend $40 to go to a Rays game. The lightning have been selling out for years in Tampa with a 19000 capacity arena.
    It is shown by the TV ratings that the Rays are popular. This is a fairly large market and growing rapidly

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    Watching enough Reds/Pirates or Reds/Cubs games this year makes you realize there's really not enough major league level talent out there to supply two more teams.
    "In our sundown perambulations of late, through the outer parts of Brooklyn, we have observed several parties of youngsters playing 'base', a certain game of ball. Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms, the game of ball is glorious"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reds Freak View Post
    Watching enough Reds/Pirates or Reds/Cubs games this year makes you realize there's really not enough major league level talent out there to supply two more teams.
    That’s not really true though, those teams just aren’t trying to get that talent. It’s all hoarded on super teams like the Dodgers too.

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    Vegas has done well in attendance since inception (#6 in the league last year). I'm sure it has a lot to do with the early and continued success of the franchise. There's a LOT of corporate money available there, so I could see MLB succeeding.

    After that, it's a crapshoot. Living in NC, I'd like to see a team here. Charlotte has one of the largest metro areas not to have a baseball franchise. Greensboro and Winston-Salem are within 100 miles and several upgrades to the rail line from Raleigh to Charlotte have occurred in the last 20 years to prepare for high-speed rail.

    Portland would probably be the first choice, but if they aren't ready, then Charlotte should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoReds View Post
    Vegas has done well in attendance since inception (#6 in the league last year). I'm sure it has a lot to do with the early and continued success of the franchise. There's a LOT of corporate money available there, so I could see MLB succeeding.

    After that, it's a crapshoot. Living in NC, I'd like to see a team here. Charlotte has one of the largest metro areas not to have a baseball franchise. Greensboro and Winston-Salem are within 100 miles and several upgrades to the rail line from Raleigh to Charlotte have occurred in the last 20 years to prepare for high-speed rail.

    Portland would probably be the first choice, but if they aren't ready, then Charlotte should be.
    I moved from Chicago to Charlotte last year. Would love to see the Reds pack up and move here.

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    Cities like Nashville, Charlotte, Portland and Vegas are all being thrown around. All of these would be small market teams in metro areas about the size of Cincinnati.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNRED View Post
    Cities like Nashville, Charlotte, Portland and Vegas are all being thrown around. All of these would be small market teams in metro areas about the size of Cincinnati.
    Is it the size of the city or the number of potential corporate sponsors that counts most?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNRED View Post
    Cities like Nashville, Charlotte, Portland and Vegas are all being thrown around. All of these would be small market teams in metro areas about the size of Cincinnati.
    Media market wise Cincinnati is #36, Charlotte’s 22,PDX is 25, Nashville is 29 and Vegas #40.


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