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    bob steve

    another great first round pick in the tradition of scott scudder and pat pacillo


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    Re: bob steve

    His last 10 games. Apologies for the formatting. But notice how that ERA keeps getting uglier.

    May as well toss him back in the rotation. We thought he'd found something as a reliever, but this is more of the same.

    Date Score Type Dec IP H R ER BB K HR ERA WHIP BAA
    Jul 23 @MIL
    Reg - 1.0 1 3 2 1 2 1 5.35 1.24 .209
    Jul 19 STL
    L 12-11
    Reg - 1.0 1 2 2 1 2 1 5.02 1.22 .208
    Jul 18 STL
    L 7-4
    Reg L 0.2 4 5 5 1 0 1 4.66 1.20 .207
    Jul 16 @CHC
    L 3-4
    Reg - 0.2 1 0 0 0 0 0 3.50 1.08 .187
    Jul 14 @COL
    L 9-10
    Reg - 2.0 0 0 0 0 4 0 3.57 1.08 .183
    Jul 13 @COL
    W 17-9
    Reg - 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 3.78 1.14 .192
    Jul 7 CLE
    L 11-1
    Reg - 1.1 1 1 1 0 3 0 3.90 1.14 .190
    Jul 1 MIL
    L 8-6
    Reg - 1.0 2 2 2 2 1 1 3.77 1.16 .190
    Jun 29 CHC
    L 6-0
    Reg - 1.0 2 1 0 1 1 0 3.30 1.07 .180
    Jun 23 @MIL
    L 5-7
    Reg - 1.0 2 0 0 0 1 0 3.41 1.00 .170
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    Re: bob steve

    Kid made progress this year. League adjusted. Let’s see if he adjusts back.

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    Re: bob steve

    I am so sorry I also failed tomention another great first round pick Pat Osburn

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    Re: bob steve

    No love for the irrepressible Chad Mottola?
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    Re: bob steve

    He was drafted 27th overall. I get he was technically a first round pick, but I bet throughout the history of the draft more 27th picks overall don’t even make it to the majors than do.
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    Re: bob steve

    Quote Originally Posted by Old school 1983 View Post
    Kid made progress this year. League adjusted. Let’s see if he adjusts back.
    Right. There is no need to draw ultimate conclusions yet.

    His issue is primarily his fastball. Threw some good ones last night. But then a terrible pitch right down the middle for a HR. We’ll see if he can get his stuff together in the next two months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Right. There is no need to draw ultimate conclusions yet.

    His issue is primarily his fastball. Threw some good ones last night. But then a terrible pitch right down the middle for a HR. We’ll see if he can get his stuff together in the next two months.
    I agree give him the rest of the year, but if we are being honest with ourselves: he is bad and should not be on a major league roster. Most teams would have cut bait by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Right. There is no need to draw ultimate conclusions yet.

    His issue is primarily his fastball. Threw some good ones last night. But then a terrible pitch right down the middle for a HR. We’ll see if he can get his stuff together in the next two months.
    What is he now, 49? I think we've got our hands on a pretty reliable sample size.
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    Re: bob steve

    He's a head case so long as he has to take his glove off and rub the baseball after every pitch.

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    Re: bob steve

    His peripherals are all solid, just a high ERA, even with a low BABIP. It seems it’s due to a very low LOB percentage, which should correct itself over time.

    3.51 FIP
    3.95:xFIP
    3.48 SIERRA
    12.19 K/9
    3.82 BB/9
    3.19 K/BB
    1.12 HR/9
    .208 BA against
    1.22 WHIP

    He’s pitching well, just running into a rough spot. I think he’s a good option for the rotation or closer spot next season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    His peripherals are all solid, just a high ERA, even with a low BABIP. It seems it’s due to a very low LOB percentage, which should correct itself over time.

    3.51 FIP
    3.95:xFIP
    3.48 SIERRA
    12.19 K/9
    3.82 BB/9
    3.19 K/BB
    1.12 HR/9
    .208 BA against
    1.22 WHIP

    He’s pitching well, just running into a rough spot. I think he’s a good option for the rotation or closer spot next season.
    Is 3.51 FIP good for a reliever? Not saying it isn’t, I don’t know.
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    Re: bob steve

    Other Reds with the initials R.S.:

    The Good:
    Reggie Sanders
    Ray Starr

    The Bad:
    Roger Salkeld
    Ramon Santiago
    Rafael Santo Domingo
    Richie Scheinblum
    Ruben Sierra
    Russ Springer
    Randy St. Claire
    Ricky Stone

    And The Ugly (Guys I've Never Heard Of):
    Raul Sanchez
    Roy Sanders
    Ralph Savidge
    Rex Smith
    Rocky Stone
    Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman. Damn glad to meet ya.

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    Re: bob steve

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigLebowski View Post
    What is he now, 49? I think we've got our hands on a pretty reliable sample size.
    He's 26, and he's in a new situation, new coaches, in relief, has had some effective outings. So I understand why Reds are giving him every opportunity. He's got a 12.34 K rate (excellent) and a 3.96 BB rate (maybe acceptable), but too many homers and a very low GB rate.

    Notably Stephenson's ERA is 5.35 but his FIP is 3.82 according to Fangraphs this morning.

    So there's something there, but he's too reliant on his slider, his fastball has to be more effective, I doubt this drags on into next season.
    Last edited by Kc61; 07-24-2019 at 10:14 AM.

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    Re: bob steve

    Now if the A's want to trade Barretto for him, I could get behind that. Two underwhelming players that likely could use a change of scenery.


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