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    So, college basketball hasn't been the same for like 35 years? LOL

    After posting this, I took at look at Ray Meyer's wiki page, and it's actually been literally 35 years since he retired. Good guess! Also interesting that while he had a very nice career at DePaul, it wasn't until his last seven years that he really got it going. And while I remembered Joey Meyer having destroyed the whole thing more or less immediately, I took a look at his record, and it was actually really good for 8 years. So they had a nice 15 year run that ended after the 91-92 season. More or less immediately after leaving independence and joining the Great Midwest.
    Well I am 52 years old...without looking it up I would say from '73 on the Demons were on the radar. 1973 is when I took notice of college basketball.

    And yes, Joey did good things with them as well.
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    To me, college basketball isn't the same without DePaul being a major player. I hope they get back to former glory and banter.
    IMHO, with the new arena near McCormick Place, they've got a chance to at least field a program on par with Marquette -- and I say this as someone with tremendous respect for the Marquette program -- especially when you consider that the State's flagship program (The Illini) is down.

    I actually also miss the San Francisco Dons as a power, too. While that may seem outlandish, this isn't the College Football landscape, where the system is designed to overly favor the bluebloods. As a comparison, who could have foreseen Gonzaga as a year-in/year-out National power a decade or so ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Red View Post
    So, college basketball hasn't been the same for like 35 years? LOL

    After posting this, I took at look at Ray Meyer's wiki page, and it's actually been literally 35 years since he retired. Good guess! Also interesting that while he had a very nice career at DePaul, it wasn't until his last seven years that he really got it going. And while I remembered Joey Meyer having destroyed the whole thing more or less immediately, I took a look at his record, and it was actually really good for 8 years. So they had a nice 15 year run that ended after the 91-92 season. More or less immediately after leaving independence and joining the Great Midwest.
    Yup. Without looking it up, I can tell you that Danny Young and Wake Forest retired Ray Meyer in an '84 Sweet 16 match-up. IIRC, the '87 team with Dallas Comegys (talk about a name from the past) was ranked #3 in the Nation pre NCAA tourney. I also found it amusing that we wound up with an '86 Sweet 16 match-up between the Blue Demons and the Blue Devils.

    Anyway...It all seems like a lifetime ago. It should also be noted that (A) much like Paul Evans at Pitt, Meyer was railroaded by his own administration -- repeatedly promised upgrades to facilities that didn't come to fruition until years later -- and (B) Pat Kennedy left a ton of money on the table to jump ship from Florida State to succeed Joey Meyer in '97, which likely wouldn't happen today.

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    @Rev

    Yeah I miss the Don as well. I was at the ACC in South Bend back in the day when the Irish knocked them off when SF was ranked #1. Duck Williams against Chubby Cox. The good ole days for me.

    Another school that has fallen off the map is UNLV.

    Man I wish it was 1970 something in the world I grew up in...
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    Kentucky having problems with Evansville tonight at Rupp.
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    Kentucky having problems with Evansville tonight at Rupp.
    Down goes Kentucky. 67-64.

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    Evansville beats UK at Rupp!
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    Happy to see a former Cat with an upset, just not against Kentucky.

    Kentucky was ice cold all game and Evansville laid out the blueprint for how to beat Kentucky this season. Amazing how dominant Kentucky looked against Michigan State and EKU and then laid an egg like this.
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    Rough few days for Kentucky fans...

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    That's glorious. Unfortunately I missed it as I was watching Xavier and Missouri set the game of basketball back several decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    Rough few days for Kentucky fans...
    Just read something on Twitter that put it best:

    Losing to Tennessee by mistakes and great effort sucks.

    Losing to Evansville because of poor effort and getting outworked is embarrassing.

    On a side note, Iím happy for Walter McCarty and especially glad he handled it with class, even in the postgame celebration. Compared to Orgeron last Saturday at LSU, complete difference.
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    Pitiful loss for Kentucky. Evansville was picked 8th in the MVC this year. I am happy for McCarty, Seems like a good guy and maybe a very good coach in the making.

    It surprising in a way this hasn't happened more under Cal. With these very young teams every year you would think they would have lost to more mid majors than they have. Lots of close calls but this was the first mid major loss under Cal other than the NIT loss to Bob Morris.

    This loss will probably resonate all season unless Evansville turns out to be much much better than thought. If UK goes on to have a good season it will pull them down at least a notch on the seed line in March. IMO they would have to almost run the table now to get a one seed. But with they way they looked last night there are no worries there. They are far from being good team. It's a typical Cal team of the last few seasons. Good athletes but poor basketball players. They can't shoot and lack overall good fundamentals. Injuries I'm sure have drug them down in practice. But that's on Cal too. I think he had a couple of scholarships left but didn't recruit anyone to fill them. Now he's paying for it with these injuries with having round up students and others to have a practice. We'll see how they rebound from this as this is a different problem Cal is facing now. Last year he could always fall back from the Duke loss as they were one of the top teams in the nation. But Evansville? He will have to come up with a big spin to overcome this one.
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    Pitiful loss for Kentucky. Evansville was picked 8th in the MVC this year. I am happy for McCarty, Seems like a good guy and maybe a very good coach in the making.

    It surprising in a way this hasn't happened more under Cal. With these very young teams every year you would think they would have lost to more mid majors than they have. Lots of close calls but this was the first mid major loss under Cal other than the NIT loss to Bob Morris.

    This loss will probably resonate all season unless Evansville turns out to be much much better than thought. If UK goes on to have a good season it will pull them down at least a notch on the seed line in March. IMO they would have to almost run the table now to get a one seed. But with they way they looked last night there are no worries there. They are far from being good team. It's a typical Cal team of the last few seasons. Good athletes but poor basketball players. They can't shoot and lack overall good fundamentals. Injuries I'm sure have drug them down in practice. But that's on Cal too. I think he had a couple of scholarships left but didn't recruit anyone to fill them. Now he's paying for it with these injuries with having round up students and others to have a practice. We'll see how they rebound from this as this is a different problem Cal is facing now. Last year he could always fall back from the Duke loss as they were one of the top teams in the nation. But Evansville? He will have to come up with a big spin to overcome this one.
    The thing is they're not playing many freshman like in the past. By Cal standards this is a veteran team.

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    As much as hate to, I offer my condolences to the many UK fans on here. Alright, I am just trying to be nice. Loved the Evansville win because I used to party with Aces' legend Scott Haffner. I digress. Any way if it is of any consolation in my IU fandom when the General was in charge we very rarely re-loaded like you guys do on a constant and consistent basis these days. But one such year was the '83-'84 season. We were damn good in '82-'83, a natty caliber team. But we lost 4 starters off that team heading into the following season. The incoming recruits, on paper, looked just fine. We lost a bunch but still we were preseason #19 with our opening game at Assembly Hall against this cupcake, Miami(OH). The Redskins won every facet of the game as well as the final score. I was devastated. Geez, pitiful, a MAC school? But it turned out my Hoosiers had a stellar year...Elite Eight showing and beat Jordan in his last college game. As it turned out Miami was one fine squad. They reached the NCAAT as well that year as well as winning the MAC. They were led by this guy by the name of Ron Harper.

    But anyways UK fans take heart in that you just never know.
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    2 pretty good games in the Big East/Big Ten challenge tonight: Villanova at Ohio State and Purdue at Marquette. Also, Providence at Northwestern, but if that's a good game something has gone horribly wrong for Providence!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    The thing is they're not playing many freshman like in the past. By Cal standards this is a veteran team.
    Itís still freshman heavy but you are right. Four of their starters (when healthy) are either sophomores or a junior.

    Nick Richards is the only interior presence this team has right now with Montgomery out. Evansville got him into foul trouble and forced Kentucky to go small. Tyrese Maxey can get hot and go equally cold just as well. Hagans played the worst game heís ever played at Kentucky but that may have been due to injury. Itís a recipe for disaster.
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