Keeping Tabs: NL Central

[mth123]

I had a similar thought about Bumgarner, but remember that he and Puig are blood enemies.

I don't care about that. If they can't get along, then Puig's gotta go. I'd bet Puig would have his back more than anyone if they were on the same team. I think they were Dodgers/Giants enemies. Once on the same team, they'd both be guys I'd want in my foxhole.

[Bourgeois Zee]

Memorial Day Weekend is next week-end and that was the time I wanted to wait and see for deciding on this team. The rotation is competitive, but has fallen back to earth a bit with Disco and Gray both looking more like back-end guys.

Huh?

Reds are #3 in starter WAR in all of baseball.

If you prefer less analytic numbers, they're #5 in ERA and K/9.

There's been no fall.

[757690]

The only team in front of us which really concerns me is the Cubs.

The Cards are a mess with poor pitching generally.

The Brewers also have poor pitching.

The Pirates are the Pirates.

The Reds just need to get some help from their hitting and they’ll pass those teams.


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I agree about the Cardinals. They also have defensive issues.

But I don’t see much difference between the Cubs and Brewers pitching overall. Cubs have better starters, but they have no one in the league of Hader.

[mth123]

Huh?

Reds are #3 in starter WAR in all of baseball.

If you prefer less analytic numbers, they're #5 in ERA and K/9.

There's been no fall.

Disco 4.6 ERA after years of being bad or hurt. He gives up HR like candy and the weather is just now heating up. Gray with a 4.3 ERA after a horrible season last year. Roark is a long established back-end starter, which is fine and needed. Mahle has looked good, but is a second year guy and still a question mark. To take the team seriously, they need another frontline starter. The guys who were question marks coming in are still questions IMO. I want somebody bankable.

[JCM11]

I'd have an eye on signing Bumgarner long term. I'd offer India, Santillan, Schebler, Siri and Disco and see what the Giants say. The Giants really need youth. If the Reds could add Bumgarner and Will Smith in that deal, it would really make this a fun season.

Marcus Stroman is putting up better numbers than Mad Bum and comes with an extra year of control. I might do that package minus India for him.

[GAC]

Slow and steady. Keep winning series.

Yep. It's a marathon, not a sprint.

[Wonderful Monds]

Marcus Stroman is putting up better numbers than Mad Bum and comes with an extra year of control. I might do that package minus India for him.

I’d rather have Stroman too. Not sure who he’d replace in the rotation though because Mahle has been maybe our second best starter. Unless they traded Roark in a subsequent deal or something.

[PuffyPig]

I agree about the Cardinals. They also have defensive issues.

But I don’t see much difference between the Cubs and Brewers pitching overall. Cubs have better starters, but they have no one in the league of Hader.

The Cubs ERA is close to a run better.

Harder has been ridden pretty hard already and giving up lots of HR’s.

Brewers pitching will start to fade, if it hasn’t already.


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[mth123]

I’d rather have Stroman too. Not sure who he’d replace in the rotation though because Mahle has been maybe our second best starter. Unless they traded Roark in a subsequent deal or something.

Disco is the easy answer. He has an era OF 4.60, gives up way too many HR and it's only going to get worse as the temperatures and humidity rise through the summer. He has only one year left after this anyway and isn't part of the long term plan. Send him to a place where it's hard to hit HR and he can be OK.

[RiverfrontRed]

My biggest fear is that when the bats get hot, and they will, that the pitching will go south.........

[GAC]

When it comes to the game of baseball, I have no fears. So I guess that either makes me fearless ... or numb.

[Bourgeois Zee]

Disco 4.6 ERA after years of being bad or hurt. He gives up HR like candy and the weather is just now heating up. Gray with a 4.3 ERA after a horrible season last year. Roark is a long established back-end starter, which is fine and needed. Mahle has looked good, but is a second year guy and still a question mark. To take the team seriously, they need another frontline starter. The guys who were question marks coming in are still questions IMO. I want somebody bankable.

DeSclafani ranks 88th in ERA of the 130 pitchers with the most innings pitched.

Gray's FIP indicates he's pitched far better than his ERA. Still, he ranks 75th.

If those are your two worst SP, your staff is probably really, really good. And, hey, look at that!

It is.

[Wonderful Monds]

Also forgot about Wood coming back, which should bump one of Roark or Disco by default. Really don’t think they need a pitcher if they’re gonna trade for anyone. Maybe Stroman if they could sign him to an extension or at the very least have him for next year.

[OhioRiverBarge]

Why you play all 162. Because baseball is weird, and the season is long.

[OGB]

Memorial Day Weekend is next week-end and that was the time I wanted to wait and see for deciding on this team. The rotation is competitive, but has fallen back to earth a bit with Disco and Gray both looking more like back-end guys. Roark has been better, but his long established profile is also as a back-end starter. I think the Reds should make a push for Madison Bumgarner and Will Smith from the Giants. A late inning arm and a frontline starter make this team legit. Scooter's return along with Puig and Votto finding their strokes should be enough on the offensive side where Senzlel and Suarez are studs and Winker and Dietrich are solid producers.

I'd have an eye on signing Bumgarner long term. I'd offer India, Santillan, Schebler, Siri and Disco and see what the Giants say. The Giants really need youth. If the Reds could add Bumgarner and Will Smith in that deal, it would really make this a fun season.

I'd be in favor of a deal like that if they could extend Bumgarner for 3-4 years. It'd soften the Santillan loss more if they draft Lodolo.
I kinda hate giving Tony up, though, otherwise.
The SP in the farm stinks.