What would you say.....ya do here?
Ashcraft is exactly the type of guy that could pitch like prime Roger Clemens without budging his national prospect needle. I’ll let the Reds decide if he’s an important arm or not.
Ashcraft is having great success this season. He has given up 17 ER in 14 starts- 10 came in the fist four starts. The other 7 runs came in one awful inning. He sits in the upper 90s and hits 100. He added a curve this past year.
He is darn near untouchable for me at this point.
https://www.baseballamerica.com/stor...s-a-new-pitch/
Old school 1983 (07-26-2021)
Honestly, he gives me some Jacob DeGrom vibes in terms of later round college draft pick, made improvements upon pro-ball, got results, yet stayed pretty under the radar via the baseball media.
And no, that does not mean I think he is due to become the greatest pitcher of his era. But pitching development is the hardest for baseball media and scouts to measure in this day and age and then those people are usually slow to react to the new information, future stud pitchers get missed all the time.
"Today was the byproduct of us thinking we can come back from anything." - Joey Votto after blowing a 10-1 lead and holding on for the 12-11 win on 8/25/2010.
Old school 1983 (07-26-2021)
I’m not moving him Lodolo or Greene for anything.
His rise reminds me of Ty Mahle's rise through the system. 6 years of control for a guy like that is valuable. (6th vs 7 rd picks, Ashcraft gets the older start, Mahle eventually cracked some top 100 lists.) If Ashcraft turns into DeGrom for the Reds, however, I will not complain.
Mahle's stats:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=mahle-000tyl
Ashcraft:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=ashcra000gra
Last edited by klw; 07-26-2021 at 01:54 PM.
Just based on the profiles alone I think Ashcraft has a lot more upside than Mahle ever did. Ashcraft seems to have a plus breaking pitch to go along with a near 100 mph heater where as Mahle was always more of a control type. Although Mahle has probably reached his 90th percentile outcome.
"Today was the byproduct of us thinking we can come back from anything." - Joey Votto after blowing a 10-1 lead and holding on for the 12-11 win on 8/25/2010.
One difference. Mahle is a high ball pitcher. Ashcraft is a ground ball pitcher. His current AA ground ball rate is 70%. That’s unsustainable but at earlier stops he threw GBs too. A solid K rate and a high GB rate is a good recipe for success at GABP. (See Castillo, Luis.) And Ashcraft hasn’t walked many so far.
Last edited by Kc61; 07-26-2021 at 06:14 PM.
Griffey012 (07-27-2021),JCM11 (07-26-2021)
Ashcraft has only allowed 2 HRs in his 126.1 inning minor league career, and they both came back in 2019. That's just about approached the point where it's not a statistical oddity and more a sign of how dominating he is.
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