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    Re: Pete Rose Is Angry

    Pete belongs in the HOF.

    But he blew his chances at making the Hall of Good Human Beings decades ago.
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    Re: Pete Rose Is Angry

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Pete can be both right and a jerk. (He’s not garbage or trash, no human being is.)
    He had sex with a minor. He had an ongoing affair with said minor.
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    Re: Pete Rose Is Angry

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantly View Post
    I could be wrong, don’t want to re-watch, didn’t Pete say he does not bet on Baseball in this piece?
    I didn't catch that but if he did then he quit recently. Next question: why did you decide to quit now Pete? Might you go back to betting on baseball?

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    Re: Pete Rose Is Angry

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sheed View Post
    Pete belongs in the HOF.

    But he blew his chances at making the Hall of Good Human Beings decades ago.
    How sick does a guy have to be that gets banned for betting on baseball in 1989, to be still betting on baseball in 2015?

    I'm all for getting past this ban but Pete's behavior makes it really difficult

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    Re: Pete Rose Is Angry

    What's wrong with betting on baseball when you don't have a baseball job?
    "Reality tells us there are no guarantees. Except that some day Jon Lester will be on that list of 100-game winners." - Peter Gammons

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    Re: Pete Rose Is Angry

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    How sick does a guy have to be that gets banned for betting on baseball in 1989, to be still betting on baseball in 2015?

    I'm all for getting past this ban but Pete's behavior makes it really difficult
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    But yeah, Pete needs to get away from this whole gambling atrocity. Right, MLB?
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    Re: Pete Rose Is Angry

    I suspect that if we were to list every transgression of of every player ever elected to the HOF and kick out all who ever did anything wrong the HOF would cease to exist. Rose doesn't exist in a bubble or vacuum of "Only Pete Rose did things wrong". Plenty of players in and out of the HOF did a lot of crummy things. I suspect quite a few HOFers slept with young ladies, bet on games and far worse things, but Rose is somehow singled out well beyond anything he actually did that nobody else ever did.
    Personally I agree with his philosophy on hitting and winning games. I don't have to like him as a human being because after all, if a person's character is the only measure of their worth in baseball a LOT of really bad baseball players would be in the HOF today instead of guys who broke records playing.
    Do we only root for teams and players with the nicest guys and uniforms? Last time I checked we root for teams and players who can win games.
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    Re: Pete Rose Is Angry

    Quote Originally Posted by blumj View Post
    What's wrong with betting on baseball when you don't have a baseball job?
    When you were told in 1989 that if you ever wanted back in the game
    you need reconfigure your life which meant seek help and stop gambling
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    Re: Pete Rose Is Angry

    Quote Originally Posted by mamell View Post
    I suspect that if we were to list every transgression of of every player ever elected to the HOF and kick out all who ever did anything wrong the HOF would cease to exist. Rose doesn't exist in a bubble or vacuum of "Only Pete Rose did things wrong". Plenty of players in and out of the HOF did a lot of crummy things. I suspect quite a few HOFers slept with young ladies, bet on games and far worse things, but Rose is somehow singled out well beyond anything he actually did that nobody else ever did.
    Personally I agree with his philosophy on hitting and winning games. I don't have to like him as a human being because after all, if a person's character is the only measure of their worth in baseball a LOT of really bad baseball players would be in the HOF today instead of guys who broke records playing.
    Do we only root for teams and players with the nicest guys and uniforms? Last time I checked we root for teams and players who can win games.
    Rose did way more than those other players you point out.

    He bet on baseball while a manager of the Reds. Every ball player has it drilled into him that if you bet on baseball you will be kicked out.

    He agreed to a lifetime ban from baseball even while stilling claim his innocence, essentially to keep the sordid details hidden.

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    Re: Pete Rose Is Angry

    So, you'd feel the same about him if he was playing poker at a casino?
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    Re: Pete Rose Is Angry

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sheed View Post
    "Miami Valley Gaming... GET READY TO GET LUCKY!!!!"

    But yeah, Pete needs to get away from this whole gambling atrocity. Right, MLB?

    I don't think anyone in MLB could have been any less interested if Rose had been pulling the lever on slot machines instead of BETTING ON GAMES IN WHICH HE WAS INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THE OUTCOME. It's not quite (or close to) the same thing.

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    Re: Pete Rose Is Angry

    Quote Originally Posted by blumj View Post
    So, you'd feel the same about him if he was playing poker at a casino?
    I'm not sure why that is even relevant. It would be no different than him eating a peanut butter and jam sandwich.

    He bet on baseball while he was a manager. I'm not sure why many seem to miss that fact. it's a CEE.

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    Re: Pete Rose Is Angry

    Quote Originally Posted by blumj View Post
    What's wrong with betting on baseball when you don't have a baseball job?
    Absolutely nothing. So long as you're comfortable continuing to not have a baseball job.

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    Re: Pete Rose Is Angry

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Damn if he doesn’t just draw you in when he’s talking.
    That's how sociopaths do.
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    Re: Pete Rose Is Angry

    Quote Originally Posted by George Anderson View Post
    When you were told in 1989 that if you ever wanted back in the game
    you need reconfigure your life which meant seek help and stop gambling
    Why would whether he gets in the HOF or not be connected to him "reconfiguring" his life after he retired? The HOF should be based solely on his baseball career....I don't particularly like him, but he is one of the baseball greats of all time and belongs in the HOF. Put him right beside Ty Cobb for all I care, just quit with worrying about his current life...

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