Turn Off Ads?
Page 4 of 14 FirstFirst 12345678 ... LastLast
Results 46 to 60 of 197

Thread: Bauer traded to Reds - part 2

  1. #46
    Member 757690's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Venice
    Posts
    33,291

    Re: Bauer traded to Reds - part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by The Operator View Post
    I'm not saying he DID order the trade, I'm just saying that I absolutely wouldn't put it past him. He's a meddling owner.


    Maybe he never even gave them a target but said "GET ME A STARTER FOR A PLAYOFF RUN NEXT YEAR" and Bauer was the guy Dick and Nick liked.

    I've got no idea, but Bob's not getting any sort of benefit of the doubt from me.
    I can absolutely see that happening. But I don’t think he follows the game close enough to say, “I want this player.”
    Hoping to change my username to 75769023


  2. Turn Off Ads?
  3. #47
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Posts
    2,228

    Re: Bauer traded to Reds - part 2

    I am wondering if part of his success in Cleveland was facing lots of horrible teams like white Sox tigers and royals are all bad teams that he has faced a lot the last few years. I think facing a lot of bad teams helped bailey this year.

  4. #48
    Backup First Baseman OGB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    3,467

    Re: Bauer traded to Reds - part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneinthBrame View Post
    I am wondering if part of his success in Cleveland was facing lots of horrible teams like white Sox tigers and royals are all bad teams that he has faced a lot the last few years. I think facing a lot of bad teams helped bailey this year.
    I actually looked into this exact thing about Kluber this off-season and, oddly enough, it turned out his numbers were better outside of the division.
    (Referring to Jack Hannahan signing with a Korean team)
    Since there are no teams on the moon, I guess South Korea's far enough from Cincinnati to satisfy me.
    -RichRed

  5. #49
    Man Pills Falls City Beer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2000
    Location
    Philadelphia
    Posts
    31,207

    Re: Bauer traded to Reds - part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by The Operator View Post
    I'm not saying he DID order the trade, I'm just saying that I absolutely wouldn't put it past him. He's a meddling owner.


    Maybe he never even gave them a target but said "GET ME A STARTER FOR A PLAYOFF RUN NEXT YEAR" and Bauer was the guy Dick and Nick liked.

    I've got no idea, but Bob's not getting any sort of benefit of the doubt from me.

    - - - Updated - - -

    In any event, the whole "non tender" and "cut bait" talk about Bauer is kinda ridiculous.

    Unless he's injured he won't be this bad forever. They went out and got him, now they need to get the ship righted.
    They have two months to assess Bauer. The idea that this cheap franchise would spend $18 million on a complete roll of the dice is mindboggling. Would you give him a contract if he turns up injured?

  6. #50
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Posts
    87

    Re: Bauer traded to Reds - part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    They have two months to assess Bauer. The idea that this cheap franchise would spend $18 million on a complete roll of the dice is mindboggling. Would you give him a contract if he turns up injured?
    Why does this "$18,000,000" salary figure for next season keep popping up?
    (from what I can see he's making $13M this year and will be Arbitration Eligible)

    Am i wrong on this. Does Bauer already have a guaranteed $18M contract for the '20 season?

    Because I really don't see how a 10-11 record with a close to 4.50 Era would possibly warrant a $5,000,000 raise.....
    Last edited by Rece Tyler; 08-25-2019 at 06:08 PM.

  7. #51
    Man Pills Falls City Beer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2000
    Location
    Philadelphia
    Posts
    31,207

    Re: Bauer traded to Reds - part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Rece Tyler View Post
    Why does this "$18,000,000" salary figure for next season keep popping up?
    (from what I can see he's making $13M this year and will be Arbitration Eligible)

    Am i wrong on this. Does Bauer already have a guaranteed $18M contract for the '20 season?

    Because I really don't see how a 10-11 record with a close to 4.50 Era would possibly warrant a $5,000,000 raise.....
    He’ll get that or very close. They consider his career not just this season

  8. #52
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Posts
    87

    Re: Bauer traded to Reds - part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    He’ll get that or very close. They consider his career not just this season
    Trevor Bauer
    https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...auertr01.shtml

    Career average of 13-11 record with an Era of 4.00

    Tanner Roark

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...oarkta01.shtml

    Career average of 13-11 record with an Era of 3.65

    Why would an Arbitrator give Bauer more money than Roark?

    Looks much more like a Tanner Roark sort of $10M a year numbers to me.......
    Last edited by Rece Tyler; 08-25-2019 at 06:42 PM.

  9. #53
    Man Pills Falls City Beer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2000
    Location
    Philadelphia
    Posts
    31,207

    Re: Bauer traded to Reds - part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Rece Tyler View Post
    https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...auertr01.shtml

    Career average of 13-11 record with an Era of 4.00

    That sounds more like Tanner Roark sort of $10M a year numbers to me.......
    He won’t take a pay cut.

  10. #54
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Posts
    87

    Re: Bauer traded to Reds - part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    He won’t take a pay cut.
    I've read (on here) that Gausman can take a pay cut in Arbitration. Why not Bauer?

    Bauer sure as heck doesn't deserve a raise...

    (if I'm the Reds i would offer about $10,000,000)
    Last edited by Rece Tyler; 08-25-2019 at 06:32 PM.

  11. #55
    Member mth123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    31,935

    Re: Bauer traded to Reds - part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Rece Tyler View Post
    Fair (or pretty darn unfair actually)

    but Bauer sure as heck doesn't deserve a raise...
    (if I'm the Reds i would offer about $10,000,000)
    But he'll get one. $18 Million is about right.
    All my posts are my opinion - just like yours are. If I forget to state it and you're too dense to see the obvious, look here!

  12. Likes:

    Coopdaddy67 (08-25-2019)

  13. #56
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Posts
    87

    Re: Bauer traded to Reds - part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    But he'll get one. $18 Million is about right.
    when looking at the Bauer vs. Roark career comparison.....along with the fact that Bauer will be coming off of a terrible statistical season.........WHY DO YOU THINK $18,000,000 IS REALISTIC FOR THIS PARTICULAR PLAYER?....... NAME RECOGNITION?? (sorry about the caps, but this seriously makes zero sense to me)

  14. #57
    Member mth123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    31,935

    Re: Bauer traded to Reds - part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Rece Tyler View Post
    when looking at the Bauer vs. Roark career comparison.....along with the fact that Bauer will be coming off of a terrible statistical season.........WHY DO YOU THINK $18,000,000 IS REALISTIC FOR THIS PARTICULAR PLAYER?....... NAME RECOGNITION?? (sorry about the caps, but this seriously makes zero sense to me)
    Because everybody gets a raise in arb and 3rd year arb gets expensive. Bauer is going to go to arb. The Reds will probably offer about $15 Million just to have a chance at winning. Bauer will counter at $18 Or so. He's going to geta riase no matter what. The REds just paid a ton for him which will be used to help determine market value. Even if the Reds win, he's getting $15Million plus IMO. HE won't take a cut and if the Reds offer this year's number, the arbitrator will rule for Bauer.
    All my posts are my opinion - just like yours are. If I forget to state it and you're too dense to see the obvious, look here!

  15. Likes:

    Crumbley (08-25-2019),Falls City Beer (08-25-2019),REDREAD (08-30-2019)

  16. #58
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Posts
    87

    Re: Bauer traded to Reds - part 2

    "A player's salary can indeed be reduced in arbitration -- with 20 percent being the maximum amount by which a salary can be cut."
    -MLB.com

    with Bauer having made $13M this season while stinking up the joint the team can offer him $10.4M for the '20 season. Which is a salary much more in line with his career numbers. (as well as far easier to digest from a fan's perspective)

    And as for "the Reds just paid a ton for him" - - - - - - -all we gave up was 2 months of free agent to be Puig and a couple of minor leaguers who, chances are, will never even make it to The Show.
    Last edited by Rece Tyler; 08-25-2019 at 07:38 PM.

  17. #59
    Man Pills Falls City Beer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2000
    Location
    Philadelphia
    Posts
    31,207

    Re: Bauer traded to Reds - part 2

    Bauer didn’t stink up the joint most of the season, just when he came to an actual real MLB division. Not the joke known as the AL Central.

    Plus Bauer’s peripherals destroy Roark’s.

  18. Likes:

    Rece Tyler (08-25-2019)

  19. #60
    breath westofyou's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2000
    Location
    PDX
    Posts
    56,996

    Re: Bauer traded to Reds - part 2

    Teams have a one in three chance of winning their fans approval at the trading deadline. No deals and people scream, bad deal and people scream, good deal and people act like they broke the house.

  20. Likes:

    Ron Madden (08-26-2019)


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | Gallen5862 | Plus Plus | Powel Crosley | RedlegJake | The Operator