Turn Off Ads?
Page 3 of 15 FirstFirst 123456713 ... LastLast
Results 31 to 45 of 214

Thread: Astros stolen signs scandal

  1. #31
    The Lineups stink. KronoRed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    West N. Carolina
    Posts
    61,321

    Re: Astros stolen signs scandal

    Can't wait for the slap on the wrist.

    How about some serious punishment, no draft picks at all in 2020, life time banishment for the manager, GM and team president, team forced to go back to wearing the rainbow uniforms from the 70's.
    Go Gators!

  2. Likes:

    *BaseClogger* (11-13-2019),757690 (11-13-2019),Edd Roush (11-13-2019),Kilgore_Trout (11-13-2019),North (11-13-2019),REDREAD (11-13-2019),Redsfaithful (11-13-2019),Rolando (11-14-2019),Slyder (11-14-2019),texasdave (11-13-2019),Tommyjohn25 (11-13-2019),wally post (11-13-2019),wlf WV (11-13-2019)


  3. Turn Off Ads?
  4. #32
    Moderator The Operator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Carlisle, OH
    Posts
    7,976

    Re: Astros stolen signs scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    Can't wait for the slap on the wrist.

    How about some serious punishment, no draft picks at all in 2020, life time banishment for the manager, GM and team president, team forced to go back to wearing the rainbow uniforms from the 70's.
    The Braves GM was banned for life a few years ago for cheating when it came to international pool money.


    I see absolutely no reason why Luhnow shouldn’t be staring at the same type of punishment, but as you say, he’ll probabbly get a slap on the wrist.
    Quote Originally Posted by BCubb2003 View Post
    Don't worry. I'd say the game threads are about league average.
    "[Price] said he and the GM have become “somewhat in lockstep” with how they view the best way forward for the team, including how to handle promotions and playing young players while also trying to win games."

  5. Likes:

    Edd Roush (11-13-2019),REDREAD (11-13-2019)

  6. #33
    Member Ron Madden's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Cincinnati
    Posts
    12,002

    Re: Astros stolen signs scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfaithful View Post
    All the implications are crazy. Can't trust any offensive numbers an Astros player has put up in recent years. Any interesting offensive home/road splits?
    Houston won more games on the road than they did at home during the 2017 and 2018 seasons and the 2019 World Series.

  7. Likes:

    *BaseClogger* (11-13-2019),Revering4Blue (11-13-2019)

  8. #34
    Moderator The Operator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Carlisle, OH
    Posts
    7,976

    Re: Astros stolen signs scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Madden View Post
    Houston won more games on the road than they did at home during the 2017 and 2018 seasons and the 2019 World Series.

    It’s entirely possible they found a way to cheat on the road, too. Remember the dugout incident in Cleveland where an Astros employee got removed by security after pointing a smart phone into the Indians’ dugout and all we heard from MLB was “well we asked The Astros and they said they were just making sure The Indians weren’t cheating so move along, nothing to see here”.


    The Astros are one shady organization.
    Quote Originally Posted by BCubb2003 View Post
    Don't worry. I'd say the game threads are about league average.
    "[Price] said he and the GM have become “somewhat in lockstep” with how they view the best way forward for the team, including how to handle promotions and playing young players while also trying to win games."

  9. Likes:

    757690 (11-13-2019),DocRed (11-13-2019),Edd Roush (11-13-2019),REDREAD (11-13-2019)

  10. #35
    Member Ron Madden's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Cincinnati
    Posts
    12,002

    Re: Astros stolen signs scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by The Operator View Post
    It’s entirely possible they found a way to cheat on the road, too. Remember the dugout incident in Cleveland where an Astros employee got removed by security after pointing a smart phone into the Indians’ dugout and all we heard from MLB was “well we asked The Astros and they said they were just making sure The Indians weren’t cheating so move along, nothing to see here”.


    The Astros are one shady organization.
    Redsfaithful ask if there were any interesting home/road splits. I just thought these splits were interesting.

  11. #36
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    3,459

    Re: Astros stolen signs scandal

    Curious as to what punishment the Astros should get? Similar to the Braves in 2017? Harold Reynolds on MLB said they should lose draft picks and prospects acquired since 2017.
    Last edited by DocRed; 11-13-2019 at 10:47 AM.

  12. Likes:

    REDREAD (11-13-2019)

  13. #37
    Rally Onion! Chip R's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    40,320

    Re: Astros stolen signs scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Coopdaddy67 View Post
    If they're using technology, which seems to be backed up given some of the analysis by journalists and such breaking down video, it doesn't matter how complicated the signs are. It would be easy to figure out in a relatively short amount of time.
    You're probably right. So why not just take away the monitors by the dugout? If that's how they are getting the signs and relaying them, seems pretty simple to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    I was wrong
    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    Chip is right

  14. Likes:

    REDREAD (11-13-2019),Revering4Blue (11-13-2019)

  15. #38
    Where's my chair? REDREAD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Posts
    26,381

    Re: Astros stolen signs scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    I had thought they had stopped this with the Apple Watch Red Sox situation a few years ago. If the Astros are getting this from their CF cameras ll transmitting to the TV by the dugout, just ban the TV from that area. However part of me says make the signals more complicated. I don't like to see technology being used to steal signs. Now if they were doing this during the World Series they did a poor job of it since they lost every home game.
    I like this idea.
    A side benefit of banning TVs is that we won't have a bench coach reviewing every close play on TV and letting the manager know whether to challenge it or not.. that slows down the game as well.. The instant replay reviews would actually be a little bit more exciting if the manager had to go by "gut feel". (I am sure most appeals would be lost though).
    15Fan had a good idea about having a wireless communication device between pitcher and catcher, but the problem is that the Astros would find a way to eavesdrop on the wireless discussion..
    Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!

  16. Likes:

    Edd Roush (11-13-2019)

  17. #39
    Where's my chair? REDREAD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Posts
    26,381

    Re: Astros stolen signs scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by DocRed View Post
    Curious as to what punishment the Astros should get? Similar to the Braves in 2017? Harold Reynolds on MLB said they should lose draft picks and prospects acquired since 2017.
    Grant the entire Astros 40 man roster free agency
    Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!

  18. Likes:

    North (11-13-2019)

  19. #40
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Posts
    1,209

    Re: Astros stolen signs scandal

    I find it hard to believe they were calling out off speed pitches to hitters with a loud banging noise everyone near the field could hear. Opposing teams would pick up on that in a heart beat.

  20. #41
    Member Wonderful Monds's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Cincinnati
    Posts
    9,009

    Re: Astros stolen signs scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by JCM11 View Post
    I find it hard to believe they were calling out off speed pitches to hitters with a loud banging noise everyone near the field could hear. Opposing teams would pick up on that in a heart beat.
    I mean if you watch the video, both of those things did in fact happen
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sheed View Post
    When it comes to crow, I'd like nothing more than to eat Dick's all season long and into the postseason.

  21. Likes:

    JFLegal (11-14-2019)

  22. #42
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    3,459

    Re: Astros stolen signs scandal

    Another video of Astros stealing signs this time with a whistle and during the 2017 WS vs The Dodgers....

    https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/co...tm_name=iossmf

    Sound Familiar? Yup, the Yankees accused the Astros of using a whistle to steal signals this year in the ALCS.

    https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2019/10/16...-by-whistling/
    Last edited by DocRed; 11-13-2019 at 01:39 PM.

  23. Likes:

    Edd Roush (11-13-2019),REDREAD (11-13-2019),wally post (11-13-2019)

  24. #43
    Member membengal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Baltimore
    Posts
    12,487

    Re: Astros stolen signs scandal

    The jomboy twitter feed is doing God’s work on this. He’s got audio with the video - you can hear the signaling from the dugout.
    Well, that's what those words mean. He was here. If they don't keep him, he will have been lost/subtracted. I headed out the door today with two shoes on my feet. If I don't return with them, I have lost them. If I do return with them, I haven't added them. ---M2

  25. Likes:

    Chip R (11-13-2019),DocRed (11-13-2019)

  26. #44
    TyrannoSuarez Wrecks WrongVerb's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Monterey, CA
    Posts
    15,545

    Re: Astros stolen signs scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    The jomboy twitter feed is doing God’s work on this. He’s got audio with the video - you can hear the signaling from the dugout.
    https://twitter.com/Jomboy_/status/1194348775965437952
    Gratitude + Forgiveness = Happiness

    Covid as of 12/4/20...
    Total cases: 14,535,196
    New cases yesterday: 218,576
    Total deaths: 282,829
    New deaths yesterday: 2,918

    9/11 deaths: 2,977

  27. Likes:

    DocRed (11-13-2019),membengal (11-13-2019)

  28. #45
    Member adkindo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    1,104

    Re: Astros stolen signs scandal

    cheating is an institution in baseball. It is the only sport as a child that you begin learning how to cheat or use trickery in the first week of practice. There is very little baseball can do even if they learn the Astros are guilty of this. They do not have the ability to vacate championships and they are unable to punish individual players. Sure they could hit them with draft picks or something....but nothing major. Finally if the Astros are doing this, other teams are doing this or something similar.

  29. Likes:

    mth123 (11-13-2019)


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | GIK | cumberlandreds | Gallen5862 | Kinsm | Plus Plus | Powel Crosley | RedlegJake | The Operator