All the young pitching talent the Reds traded for. I hope the responsible parties are gone, whether instructors or evaluators.
All the young pitching talent the Reds traded for. I hope the responsible parties are gone, whether instructors or evaluators.
May the Lord bless
They don't need two or three bullpen arms better than Stephenson or Garrett. They need two or three in addition to Stephenson or Garrett. I'm fine writing Iglesias, Garrett, Lorenzen and Stephenson in ink. I'm fine holding a spot for the AAA shuttle which will probably be Bowman to start out with Deleon, Santillan, Alaniz and Kuhnel as possibilities. I'm even fine with one spot for the out of options failed starters, Reed, Sims, Romano whoever. But that's it for the unproven gambles. I want two other proven guys who have experienced late inning success recently and aren't injured. Pomeranz and Cishek would be good but it's not realistic to get both of them. It may require a trade. Mychal Givens would be a nice target and probably be fairly cheap to acquire. If there are multiple spots for Sims, Reed, Romano, Gausman and other failures who haven't proven anything, it's too risky for me. Sometimes failed starters also end up as failed relievers as well. Far more often than they actually become effective relievers if we're being honest and not just hoping.
If they want to parlay Bauer into a couple of young players who settle some of the weak positions, replace him with a longer term rotation piece in free agency and extend the window beyond 2020, I'd be more open to the try-out camp nature of that bullpen, but if the plan is to win around a rotation with two lame duck short timers in it, they need some proven arms out there.
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REDREAD (11-27-2019)
Reds relief need - at minimum - is an additional guy capable of effective set up pitching in 7th-8th inning.
A role Hernandez played last year. Someone who can do that but more durably and consistently.
The Reds’ current back end is much too iffy right now. There must be a solid fall back option who has shown that ability in the past.
That’s the minimum. More would be even better.
I would like to add a late inning lefty to the bullpen. Amir has yet to show he can be the #1 lefty in the pen for an entire season. Realistically I think we need two late inning bullpen arms, but getting at least one this off season is a must.
REDREAD (11-27-2019)
Well you said the Reds had one decent bullpen arm, Lorenzen. So if they aren't getting guys better than Stephenson or Garrett, isn't that a pretty terrible bullpen?
I am totally on board bringing in another quality reliever, I even stated in a prior post I would like a steady veteran middle reliever added. The rest of your recent posts have made it sound like the pen needs a complete overhaul and it is full of guys who can't be trusted and shouldn't be here. I see nothing wrong with what you've stated here (aside from the fact I am obviously high on Reed, but that is something we can easily be in disagreement on).
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O'Grady goes to the Rays
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/...ssignment.html
The Rays have acquired outfielder Brian O’Grady from the Reds, per club announcements. First baseman Jesus Aguilar was designated for assignment to create roster space.
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RedForLife (11-27-2019)
I think I’d rather have Aguilar than either of BOG or Martini, I’d consider grabbing him.
“I don’t care,” Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. “He’s in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.”
Old school 1983 (11-27-2019)
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/...ssignment.html
Rays Acquire Brian O’Grady, Designate Jesus Aguilar For Assignment
The Rays have acquired outfielder/first baseman Brian O’Grady from the Reds, per club announcements. The Cincinnati organization will receive a player to be named and cash in the swap.
RedForLife (11-27-2019)
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He can't be the complete answer, but he can be part of it as a platoon Corner OF. Picking up the low OBP, high HR SS option was a mistake. OBP carries from the minors to the majors and he is at his prime age to have his best professional season. I think he will be a positive asset to the team (and that the SS I mentioned will be a negative asset).
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