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  • Bobby Abreu

    8 8.51%
  • Josh Beckett

    1 1.06%
  • Heath Bell

    0 0%
  • Barry Bonds

    61 64.89%
  • Eric Chavez

    1 1.06%
  • Roger Clemens

    60 63.83%
  • Adam Dunn

    10 10.64%
  • Chone Figgins

    0 0%
  • Rafael Furcal

    0 0%
  • Jason Giambi

    2 2.13%
  • Todd Helton

    37 39.36%
  • Raul Ibanez

    0 0%
  • Derek Jeter

    85 90.43%
  • Andruw Jones

    25 26.60%
  • Jeff Kent

    19 20.21%
  • Paul Konerko

    8 8.51%
  • Cliff Lee

    5 5.32%
  • Carlos Pena

    0 0%
  • Brad Penny

    0 0%
  • Andy Pettitte

    27 28.72%
  • J.J. Putz

    0 0%
  • Manny Ramirez

    54 57.45%
  • Brian Roberts

    0 0%
  • Scott Rolen

    50 53.19%
  • Curt Schilling

    54 57.45%
  • Gary Sheffield

    27 28.72%
  • Alfonso Soriano

    2 2.13%
  • Sammy Sosa

    26 27.66%
  • Jose Valverde

    0 0%
  • Omar Vizquel

    19 20.21%
  • Billy Wagner

    22 23.40%
  • Larry Walker

    68 72.34%
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Thread: RedsZone's 2020 BBWAA HOF Ballot Vote

  1. #46
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    Re: RedsZone's 2020 BBWAA HOF Ballot Vote

    True story: Larry Walker, Scott Rolen and Bobby Abreu were staples on my Strat teams of the late '90s and early '00s. Those guys were money.
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    Re: RedsZone's 2020 BBWAA HOF Ballot Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    How does one vote for Bonds but not Clemens?
    I voted for both. But to my knowledge, Bonds has not been accused of having sex with a 15 years old while a grown man.

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    Here's mine. This is the first year in a while I picked fewer than 10, and I could be persuaded on a few guys I didn't pick. For what it's worth, Jeter is the only guy who is getting more than 75% right now, and I'd put him toward the bottom of my list.

    (alpha order): Abreu, Bonds, Clemens, Helton, Jeter, Manny, Schilling, Sheffield, Walker,
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    Re: RedsZone's 2020 BBWAA HOF Ballot Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili View Post
    I voted for both. But to my knowledge, Bonds has not been accused of having sex with a 15 years old while a grown man.

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    I've thought about starting a separate thread regarding the use of the "character" clause to keep otherwise Hall of Fame worthy players out of the HOF. I haven't yet done so, in part because of time but also because I expected the thread might quickly violate the ban on political and religious discussions on the main board.
    My own position on this issue is that unless a player's character alleged character flaws adversely affected his on field performance and his ability to help his team win, it is irrelevant to his qualifications for the HOF.
    Take Pete Rose. Rose served time for filing false tax returns and there have been a number of allegations against Rose for off field "inappropriate" relationships, but it was his betting on MLB games that lead to his ban from baseball and the HOF. Rose's other sins are arguably worse in the grand scheme of things, but it was the baseball sin that justifiably keeps him out of the HOF.
    I am not comfortable with evaluating the worthiness of HOF induction based upon the alleged off field shortcomings of a player unrelated to the game. Do we retroactively kick the Babe out of the HOF? What about Kirby Puckett, who after his death was revealed not to be as lovable as his image? What about Cap Anson, who reportedly lead the effort to keep non-whites from playing MLB?
    Around the time Mariano Rivera was inducted, The Daily Beast ran a hit piece on Rivera's alleged political and religious views, wanting those alleged sins to be on Rivera's plaque. Curt Schilling has thus far been kept out of the HOF largely because of a number of comments he has made, not because of his pitching qualifications, which are HOF worthy.
    I am not defending anyone here. It is sometimes hard enough to evaluate whether or not a player's on field production made him worthy of HOF induction and to be consistent in how players are compared to each other. Trying to pick through character issues unrelated to the game will make fairly performing that task impossible.
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    Re: RedsZone's 2020 BBWAA HOF Ballot Vote

    I don't like bringing character into it. We don't really have any idea about these guys character. The guy who seems like the nicest dude around might be a wife beater or child molester for all we know. Others might be stained by unproven allegations. We only know the public personality.

    I'd stick to on-field performance. If Joey Votto doesn't get in because he likes fancy coffee it will be a crime.
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    Re: RedsZone's 2020 BBWAA HOF Ballot Vote

    We've had 111 RZone members open this thread, but only 67 have voted....please add your voice - VOTE!

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    Re: RedsZone's 2020 BBWAA HOF Ballot Vote

    Looking at the results of the RedsZone poll, I hope and expect the real vote will result in more inductees than just Derek Jeter.
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    Re: RedsZone's 2020 BBWAA HOF Ballot Vote

    Out of curiosity, I must have missed when Mark McGwire fell off the ballot
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    Re: RedsZone's 2020 BBWAA HOF Ballot Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsBaron View Post
    Looking at the results of the RedsZone poll, I hope and expect the real vote will result in more inductees than just Derek Jeter.
    Walker and perhaps Schilling are probably the only other two with a shot.

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    Re: RedsZone's 2020 BBWAA HOF Ballot Vote

    I just noticed that I thought I clicked on Larry Walker and didn't. So he should have one more vote.
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    Re: RedsZone's 2020 BBWAA HOF Ballot Vote

    I have a gut feeling that Larry Walker is going to make it in


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    Re: RedsZone's 2020 BBWAA HOF Ballot Vote

    This poll will lock in 5 days time.

    We've had 138 RZone members open the thread, but only 81 have voted (last year we had 92 votes).

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    Re: RedsZone's 2020 BBWAA HOF Ballot Vote

    This poll will close in approximately 24 hours - vote now or forever hold your peace.

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    Re: RedsZone's 2020 BBWAA HOF Ballot Vote

    It was me and by just skimming to fast down the list.He belongs for sure.
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    Re: RedsZone's 2020 BBWAA HOF Ballot Vote

    12 hours and counting for the poll


    Like last year I'll post a prediction of what I think will happen prior to the official announcement.

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    Re: RedsZone's 2020 BBWAA HOF Ballot Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by redsrule2500 View Post
    How can anyone pass on Curt Schilling
    A lot of writers (and maybe some posters here) might not vote for him because of politics, unfortunately.
    Last edited by Todd Gack; 01-19-2020 at 08:10 PM.


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