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    Re: Reds interested in Bumgarner?

    The Reds should talk to both Keuchel and Bumgarner. Whoever bites on a 3 yr deal at a reasonable price, sign him

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    Re: Reds interested in Bumgarner?

    Give me a starting pitcher who is a good (great?) hitter. He pitches more innings, needing no pinch hitter, can himself pinch hit, and lengthens the bench.

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    Re: Reds interested in Bumgarner?

    Quote Originally Posted by DocRed View Post
    Josh Lindblom could be a relatively cheap option (FG estimates 2 years for ~$8M). Pitched quite well in the KBO the last 3 years (20-3 last year with a 2.50 ERA and 0.997 WHIP). The obvious comparison is Mikolas although he pitched in the slightly better NPB. Apparently he has several teams interested with offers. On the downside he would be 33 next year.

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=lindbl001jos
    Lindblom was the KBO top pitcher this year and pitched for the league champs Doosan Bears. I went to a couple of games in which he pitched and he was very consistent, showing good movement on his pitches. He maybe worth a look, similar to Eric Thames for the Brewers several years ago.

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    Re: Reds interested in Bumgarner?

    A long term deal for Wheeler worried me about injury risk

    A long term deal for Bumgarner worries me about performance in a small ballpark

    Hope they go another direction instead of 5 yrs and 6 figures.

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    Re: Reds interested in Bumgarner?

    Quote Originally Posted by UPRedsFan View Post
    A long term deal for Wheeler worried me about injury risk

    A long term deal for Bumgarner worries me about performance in a small ballpark

    Hope they go another direction instead of 5 yrs and 6 figures.
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    Re: Reds interested in Bumgarner?

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
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    Re: Reds interested in Bumgarner?

    if the reds need to overpay free agent hitters to come to cincinnati and play in a bandbox, imagine how much they will have to overpay good free agent pitchers.

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    Re: Reds interested in Bumgarner?

    Just curious: Do the stats show any pitchers who have a fly ball tendency but not homers? Maybe they induce a lot of pop ups and cans of corn, but they arenít hit hard enough for home runs?

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    Re: Reds interested in Bumgarner?

    Quote Originally Posted by Far East View Post
    Give me a starting pitcher who is a good (great?) hitter. He pitches more innings, needing no pinch hitter, can himself pinch hit, and lengthens the bench.
    Bumgarner has been awful at the plate the past two seasons striking out 60 times in 100 ab with an average south of .150. He's no Michael Lorenzen. The fact that there's a draft pick attached to Bumgarner has me even more confused why the Reds would think he's a good fit. Giving him huge contract plus loosing a draft pick would be a double whammy. Something in the 3/60 range might not be the end of the world, but neither Kuechel or Ryu comes with a draft pick loss.

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    Re: Reds interested in Bumgarner?

    Quote Originally Posted by JCM11 View Post
    Bumgarner has been awful at the plate the past two seasons striking out 60 times in 100 ab with an average south of .150. He's no Michael Lorenzen. The fact that there's a draft pick attached to Bumgarner has me even more confused why the Reds would think he's a good fit. Giving him huge contract plus loosing a draft pick would be a double whammy. Something in the 3/60 range might not be the end of the world, but neither Kuechel or Ryu comes with a draft pick loss.
    That may be true but he's still a plus hitter as a SP as evident by his 0.3WAR bump above his pitching WAR.

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    Re: Reds interested in Bumgarner?

    Quote Originally Posted by JCM11 View Post
    Bumgarner has been awful at the plate the past two seasons striking out 60 times in 100 ab with an average south of .150. He's no Michael Lorenzen. The fact that there's a draft pick attached to Bumgarner has me even more confused why the Reds would think he's a good fit. Giving him huge contract plus loosing a draft pick would be a double whammy. Something in the 3/60 range might not be the end of the world, but neither Kuechel or Ryu comes with a draft pick loss.
    Maybe the Reds are planning to go hard after Ozuna and the draft pick loss won’t matter anyway?

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    Re: Reds interested in Bumgarner?

    Quote Originally Posted by JCM11 View Post
    Bumgarner has been awful at the plate the past two seasons striking out 60 times in 100 ab with an average south of .150. He's no Michael Lorenzen. The fact that there's a draft pick attached to Bumgarner has me even more confused why the Reds would think he's a good fit. Giving him huge contract plus loosing a draft pick would be a double whammy. Something in the 3/60 range might not be the end of the world, but neither Kuechel or Ryu comes with a draft pick loss.
    https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.as...date=&enddate=

    He has been a good hitting pitcher. Simple as that.

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    Re: Reds interested in Bumgarner?

    Quote Originally Posted by JCM11 View Post
    Bumgarner has been awful at the plate the past two seasons striking out 60 times in 100 ab with an average south of .150. He's no Michael Lorenzen. The fact that there's a draft pick attached to Bumgarner has me even more confused why the Reds would think he's a good fit. Giving him huge contract plus loosing a draft pick would be a double whammy. Something in the 3/60 range might not be the end of the world, but neither Kuechel or Ryu comes with a draft pick loss.
    The Reds would lose their 3rd round pick. Third round selections rarely make the majors and have negligible impact if they do.
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    Re: Reds interested in Bumgarner?

    Bumgarner K'd 40 times in 63 AB last year. His bat should have no bearing on any contract offer he receives.

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    Re: Reds interested in Bumgarner?

    Check out Bum's ERA on the road last season. Scares me.


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