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Thread: This is will be my most disliked thread ever- the Reds need to trade

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    This is will be my most disliked thread ever- the Reds need to trade

    Eugenio Suarez
    There is about to be a feeding frenzy for top 3B players. The Reds have one on a rediculously friendly team contract.

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    With Rendon off board, Josh Donaldson’s market becomes clearer with 3b hungry teams: #Dodgers #Rangers and (key) 3 in NL East: #Phillies #Nationals #Braves. Phils’ budget might be too tight but rest will assure Donaldson a strong pay day. Then Cubs could act with Bryant

    Year Age Tm Salary S
    2020 28 Cincinnati Reds $9,535,714 5.061
    2021 29 Cincinnati Reds $10,785,714
    2022 30 Cincinnati Reds $11,285,714
    2023 31 Cincinnati Reds $11,285,715
    2024 32 Cincinnati Reds $11,285,715
    2025 33 Cincinnati Reds *$15,000,000 $15M Team Option, $2M Buyout

    The Reds need to shop Suarez and shop him now. His contract, in contrast to those who are in play and who just signed, is amazing and allows for many to play for him.
    the demand must be high and still allow the team to complete.

    I propose Suarez to the Dodgers for Seager, Pederson, Downs, and May or Gray. It allows both teams to upgrade. For the Reds, Pederson goes to Center, Seager to SS, Moose to 3rd and Senzel to 2nd.

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    Re: This is will be my most disliked thread ever- the Reds need to trade

    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    Eugenio Suarez
    There is about to be a feeding frenzy for top 3B players. The Reds have one on a rediculously friendly team contract.

    Joel Sherman
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    Year Age Tm Salary S
    2020 28 Cincinnati Reds $9,535,714 5.061
    2021 29 Cincinnati Reds $10,785,714
    2022 30 Cincinnati Reds $11,285,714
    2023 31 Cincinnati Reds $11,285,715
    2024 32 Cincinnati Reds $11,285,715
    2025 33 Cincinnati Reds *$15,000,000 $15M Team Option, $2M Buyout

    The Reds need to shop Suarez and shop him now. His contract, in contrast to those who are in play and who just signed, is amazing and allows for many to play for him.
    the demand must be high and still allow the team to complete.

    I propose Suarez to the Dodgers for Seager, Pederson, Downs, and May or Gray. It allows both teams to upgrade. For the Reds, Pederson goes to Center, Seager to SS, Moose to 3rd and Senzel to 2nd.
    I'm open to the idea of trading Suarez but I need a lot more control on the main guys I'm getting than one yr of Peterson and 2 yrs of Seager. You're trading 6 yrs of control of Suarez. Furthermore I'm not even so sure if Joc Peterson is even a CF anymore. He hasn't played there regularly for a number of yrs. There's a reason the Dodgers acquired Pollack

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    Re: This is will be my most disliked thread ever- the Reds need to trade

    Why would the Dodgers pay that price for Suarez when Bryant would cost less in prospects and Donaldson would cost nothing in prospects?

    Money isn't an issue for the Dodgers so I doubt you're going to see them fork over that kind of package. They have a reputation of being a stingy trade partner.

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    Re: This is will be my most disliked thread ever- the Reds need to trade

    If you can get a haul for him, I would definitely look into it, especially with Moustakas an imperfect fit defensively at 2B. But they would absolutely have to get multiple MLB ready guys at positions of need for me to even consider this. I don’t think Seager and Joc is the right return.

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    Re: This is will be my most disliked thread ever- the Reds need to trade

    I'll be honest, the idea of trading Suarez is worse than Castillo.

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    Re: This is will be my most disliked thread ever- the Reds need to trade

    My philosophy is that no player is ever off limits. But, the likelihood of another team offering a deal I'd accept for Suarez is improbable to the point of impossible.

    In addition, I hesitate to trade guys recently signed to extensions. It certainly won't cause other players to want to follow suit on that.

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    Re: This is will be my most disliked thread ever- the Reds need to trade

    I like trading Saurez. I like trading Castillo as well. No player should be off-limits if they can be traded and better the team.

    I believe Betts, and Price, can be had with the right deal.

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    Re: This is will be my most disliked thread ever- the Reds need to trade

    Quote Originally Posted by scotly50 View Post
    I like trading Saurez. I like trading Castillo as well. No player should be off-limits if they can be traded and better the team.

    I believe Betts, and Price, can be had with the right deal.
    Perhaps, but it shouldn't involve Suarez or Castillo.
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    Re: This is will be my most disliked thread ever- the Reds need to trade

    It would take something like the Braves offering 4 of their top 10 prospects, but there are teams out there with third base needs that could get me to swing a deal if they wanted Geno bad enough.

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    Re: This is will be my most disliked thread ever- the Reds need to trade

    I'm open to trading anybody that will improve our team.

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    Re: This is will be my most disliked thread ever- the Reds need to trade

    In theory, this isn't a bad idea at all. I'd agree that the main pieces would need to have more control. I wonder if the Dodgers would move Lux for Geno? The argument against moving Lux for Lindor is that Lux has 6 years and Lindor 2. That would be negated in a Geno trade since he's signed thru 2025.

    Reds trade: Ay You Hey Knee Oh
    Dodgers trade: Seager, Lux, May

    I will say this - the Reds were reluctant to move BILLY HAMILTON because he was a "Fan favorite".. Imagine the outcry from the casual fan if the Reds traded Suarez.

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    Re: This is will be my most disliked thread ever- the Reds need to trade

    The only way trading Suarez would improve the team is if you could trade him for two Suarezes.

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    Re: This is will be my most disliked thread ever- the Reds need to trade

    I think they should trade Lodolo and Aquino. Sell high.

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    Re: This is will be my most disliked thread ever- the Reds need to trade

    It's not a horrible idea. I probably wouldn't do it but you would have to get an absolute haul for him. Trading him now would follow one of the maxims: Buy low and sell high. Geno's value is at an all time high. 49 HRs not to mention he's a pretty good defensive player. It's probably unlikely he has another year like this. If you looked at his career on a bell curve, he would be at the absolute apex right now. He might sustain this level for a few years but it's probably not likely. He is on a very team friendly deal which gets friendlier every day but if he's hurt and/or his production craters it becomes less friendly. Even if you're making $10M a year nowdays if your production drops, especially around here, people are going to think you're overpaid.

    On the other hand, even if you get 75% of Suarez this season for the rest of his deal, why would you even consider trading him? 3rd basemen who can hit and field don't grow on trees.
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    Re: This is will be my most disliked thread ever- the Reds need to trade

    At some point the Reds need to stop being a AAAA team for big market ballclubs.
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