Reds sign Wade Miley to 2y/$15m deal

[Kc61]

Item two on the off-season checklist is complete.

Now - another bat, more relief pitching.

[chicoruiz]

According to Dehner, in his 16 starts in 2018 with Johnson as his pitching coach his ERA was 2.57. So there's that...

[kaldaniels]

I want to like this but it’s not happening yet.

Fake news eh?

[RedTeamGo!]

If I recall, Miley was really good last year for like the 1st 70% of season....then nose dived toward the end.

More than that: Before a rough September, Wade Miley had a 3.06 ERA in his first 28 starts with the Astros.

[Caveat Emperor]

I want to like this but it’s not happening yet.

He’s being paid appropriately as a 1-5-2.0 win player (which he has been over the last few seasons), with a contract appropriate for a guy on the wrong side of 30. It’s not gonna move the needle tremendously, but it’s good business if the team isn’t gonna dip into the “ace” market financially or with prospects.

I don’t dislike it at all. They just need to do more.

[kaldaniels]

More than that: Before a rough September, Wade Miley had a 3.06 ERA in his first 28 starts with the Astros.

Could have been the trashcan bangers fault. What if he forgot what half of the inning it was?

[HammerTime]

As a fifth starter on the cheap?

Yeah, no problems with that

Agreed, really sold rotation top to bottom. Now get me a bat.

[redsman2007]

According to Dehner, in his 16 starts in 2018 with Johnson as his pitching coach his ERA was 2.57. So there's that...

This is very encouraging. If Miley could deliver 175 innings of sub 3.40 ERA, it would be a great signing.

[reds77]

Good sign, more work is still needed from the front office.

[RedTeamGo!]

Wade Miley had 3-4 other teams bidding for him, with at least one other multi-year offer in hand. Reuniting with pitching coach Derek Johnson, with whom he had great success in Milwaukee, was an important factor in his decision to sign with Cincinnati.

[WrongVerb]

From Miley's time under Johnson's tutalege in Milwaukee:

Split	G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	SB	CS	BB	SO	SO/W	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS
Ground Balls	15	129	129	6	24	4	0	0	0	0	0	0		.186	.186	.217	.403
Fly Balls	16	50	49	7	6	0	0	3	0	0	0	0		.122	.120	.306	.426
Line Drives	16	67	67	14	41	12	1	0	0	0	0	0		.612	.612	.821	1.433
Bunts	9	10	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0		.000	.000	.000	.000

I like the ground balls.

I don't like that Miley doesn't miss bats. That's dangerous in GABP.

[WildcatFan]

I’ll file him under Good Pitchers. 2/15 is a nice deal for Good Pitchers. It makes me wonder if Mahle has come up in some trade talks recently. Dare I say trade talks that may include one Sterling Marte?

[TheBigLebowski]

It’s not bad as long as they still plan to add another bat and a bullpen arm.

[Wonderful Monds]

I hate to have low expectations, but short of falling ass-backwards into a Wash/LA/Hou caliber rotation, this really is as good of a rotation we can hope for (Not counting a mid season rental). They could compete in the postseason, though I wouldn’t favor them against one of those monster rotations.

Yeah I’ve been kind of thinking the same thing. Gray and Castillo are both great pitchers obviously, and Bauer has that ceiling. But they all seem to embody that argument between an “ace” and a number 1 pitcher, if you believe in that divide. Castillo when he’s on can be one of those sub 2 ERA completely dominate you type pitchers, but I would always take a Max Scherzer or Gerritt Cole head to head against them, and each of those teams had more than one of those guys.

[SidneySlicker]

I think some are giving Mahle way too much credit. I don’t think he’s a major league starter.