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    College Football 2020

    Here we are on early signing day and USC still has only 11 recruits; no 5 stars and only one 4 star. That's a lost year in recruiting and can't ever happen for a school like that.

    UC is doing OK, ranked #51 by 247. They have two 4* guys. Tennessee is at #16 so far. Decent but still below many SEC teams

    Big Ten once again lagging behind. Only one team in the top ten. Four teams in the top 25. Tennessee has 6 SEC teams ahead of them. It's awfully tough to climb the latter in the SEC.

    https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Fo...eTeamRankings/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    Here we are on early signing day and USC still has only 11 recruits; no 5 stars and only one 4 star. That's a lost year in recruiting and can't ever happen for a school like that.

    UC is doing OK, ranked #51 by 247. They have two 4* guys. Tennessee is at #16 so far. Decent but still below many SEC teams

    Big Ten once again lagging behind. Only one team in the top ten. Four teams in the top 25. Tennessee has 6 SEC teams ahead of them. It's awfully tough to climb the latter in the SEC.

    https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Fo...eTeamRankings/
    It's amazing that they're bringing back Helton. It would be understandable if he at least has a recruiting class coming in that could provide some hope, but this is the type of class that can set the program back for years. Of the 11 recruits, only 1 is a 4 star.

    For the Big 10, other schools need to step it up. The gap between OSU and everybody else widens every year. I remember Urban taking some criticism for calling out coaches for not recruiting well enough, but he's right. It's not like the gap between Clemson and the rest of the ACC, but there is nobody in the Big 10 that presents a consistent threat to OSU, and it's hard to see that changing. Penn State probably has the best chance.


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    Should speak volumes that USC is recruiting against Kentucky for Michael (Donut) Drennen.


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    Two straight Top-6 classes for TAMU. (Just missed the 2020 Top-5 by a hair)

    Will 2020 be the year the Jimbos make a splash on the field? It's been pretty quiet in College Station since Fisher took over. I thought they'd have made a little more noise by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Two straight Top-6 classes for TAMU. (Just missed the 2020 Top-5 by a hair)

    Will 2020 be the year the Jimbos make a splash on the field? It's been pretty quiet in College Station since Fisher took over. I thought they'd have made a little more noise by now.
    They better hope so. Year 3 for Jimbo sporting his 10/75M deal and Year 2 was a complete dud

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    The ACC will continue to be a one team conference until Florida State and Miami become respectable again.

    Frankly the U has never recovered from the 2002 National Championship Game

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    Quote Originally Posted by oregonred View Post
    The ACC will continue to be a one team conference until Florida State and Miami become respectable again.

    Frankly the U has never recovered from the 2002 National Championship Game
    Ask 10 different people what went wrong at Miami, and you get 10 different answers. I think there is a little truth to many of them....

    - leaving the Big East
    - poor coaching decisions
    - recruiting stars and not football players
    - the northeast, rust belt and midwest producing less talent
    - UCF and USF......and FIU and FAU

    Changing conferences always comes with bumps....it just does. Things are done a little different, venues are different, and you are the outsider for a while. Randy Shannon and Al Golden were just poor choices and probably a result of Miami not holding itself to higher standards.....Mark Richt at least got the program back to being competitive and recruiting a better roster, and the jury is still out on Manny. Miami was recruiting 4 & 5 stars during the good years and the bad years....but it is more complicated than how many stars a player has and Shannon and Golden appeared to not understand the type of players that fit the culture and complimented the roster....Richt began to get that back in the right direction. The collapse of high school football in many regions of the country has caused half of FBS teams to invade Florida in search for talent, which has made it harder for Miami to pick and choose in their own backyard. Finally UCF and USF have been aggressive in growth, and FAU/FIU appear to be in a similar path....which has put pressure on all 3 of the big boys in the state and cut into their depth. The 3 or 4 star kid that was once the backup CB at Miami is now the starting CB at USF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adkindo View Post
    Ask 10 different people what went wrong at Miami, and you get 10 different answers. I think there is a little truth to many of them....

    - leaving the Big East
    - poor coaching decisions
    - recruiting stars and not football players
    - the northeast, rust belt and midwest producing less talent
    - UCF and USF......and FIU and FAU

    Changing conferences always comes with bumps....it just does. Things are done a little different, venues are different, and you are the outsider for a while. Randy Shannon and Al Golden were just poor choices and probably a result of Miami not holding itself to higher standards.....Mark Richt at least got the program back to being competitive and recruiting a better roster, and the jury is still out on Manny. Miami was recruiting 4 & 5 stars during the good years and the bad years....but it is more complicated than how many stars a player has and Shannon and Golden appeared to not understand the type of players that fit the culture and complimented the roster....Richt began to get that back in the right direction. The collapse of high school football in many regions of the country has caused half of FBS teams to invade Florida in search for talent, which has made it harder for Miami to pick and choose in their own backyard. Finally UCF and USF have been aggressive in growth, and FAU/FIU appear to be in a similar path....which has put pressure on all 3 of the big boys in the state and cut into their depth. The 3 or 4 star kid that was once the backup CB at Miami is now the starting CB at USF.
    Interesting thoughts. Although I don't understand what talent outside of their area has anything to do with it. I just think their fanbase needs to come to grips that the Canes are not going to be national title contenders every year.
    Fake news

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assembly Hall View Post
    Interesting thoughts. Although I don't understand what talent outside of their area has anything to do with it. I just think their fanbase needs to come to grips that the Canes are not going to be national title contenders every year.
    maybe I am just missing something that is in front of me....but what do you mean in regards to "talent outside their area"?

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    Miami(FL) has a hard time recruiting local talent when the majority of the state is filled with retirees driving '69 Impalas they bought new with no rust and in mint condition (LOL)
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    ND back-up QB enters transfer portal.
    Fake news

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    ND back-up QB enters transfer portal.
    Fake news

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    Everything's coming up roses for Jeremy Pruitt and Tennessee. It was mentioned two yrs ago that the Vols were losing recruits due to the coaching search after Butch Jones and dysfunction in Knoxville. I wrote this at the time:

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    Forget flipping guys already committed.

    I'll be thrilled if the Vols new coach can bring back guys who flipped from UT to undecided in the weeks since Butch was fired. One such example is 5 star offensive tackle Cade Mays who's from Knoxville and whose Dad played for the Vols and was All SEC in 1994 and a team captain.

    You're right that this eternal optimism doesn't get you anywhere until we see results from the field. This is akin to getting excited on draft day for Bengal fans, a condition I know all too well...

    I do think Pruitt is a far better fit than Schiano. One thing that can't be underestimated is that Pruitt is a southerner. Any of you who went to college in the south will get this. They're not so keen on a guy from Michigan like Butch Jones or a guy like Schiano from Jersey. They want to hear that southern drawl. Here are some comments typical of Vol fans:

    "I'm happy we have a good ol' Southern boy coaching the Vols again"

    "At least he doesn't have a Yankee accent."

    The bottom line is this:

    "Homerun hire! Gonna do great! We dodged a bullet. Imagine being saddled with John Currie and GS for the next 3-5 years! Thanks CPF!!!" CFP=Coach Philip Fulmer

    I liked Fulmer's comment here about his hire:

    "...his energy and personality is infectious"

    That would not be said about Greg Schiano. The Vols are in need of some positive energy around there.

    The Vols immediate expectations seem reasonable from what I can discern. They just want Pruitt to get them back to being Bowl eligible next yr
    Well now there's this:

    Sources: Georgia sophomore OL Cade Mays enters transfer portal, will stay in SEC East at Tennessee

    https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...east-tennessee

    I see Cade Mays had a change of heart and he now feels like life is better in Knoxville. It took him a couple yrs to figure it out but yeah, come back home Cade. His brother is a 4 star lineman and he's coming to UT in the 2020 class.

    Jeremy Pruitt must be doing something right if he can pawn talent away from Georgia

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    Mike Leach to Mississippi State.

    Didnít see that one coming.
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