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    2020 Votto Stat Predictions

    List any or all you want

    Games... 148
    Runs .... 76
    Doubles ... 28
    HR .... 22
    RBI.... 72
    BB..... 84
    Strikeouts... 121
    Average... .277
    OB%.... .368
    Slug % ..... .435
    OPS ..... .803

    WAR 1.8

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    Re: 2020 Votto Stat Predictions

    For posterity, the Steamer projection from Fangraphs:

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    G	PA	HR	R	RBI	SB	BB%	K%	ISO	BABIP	AVG	OBP	SLG	wOBA	wRC+	BsR	Off	Def	WAR
    150	670	23	92	76	4	14.5%	18.5%	.181	.307	.269	.382	.451	.356	117	-4.0	10.7	-12.5	1.9
    The power seems generous given the last two years, but it seems to me that his whole line is basically dependent on it. The walks and power will go hand in hand. If he's putting up a .180 ISO, I think he's walking more than 14.5% of the time. I just don't see the .181 ISO.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: 2020 Votto Stat Predictions

    i need to know which stance/approach he'd decided to use first....seriously I'd take either of the above results along with a hopefully improved lineup

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    Re: 2020 Votto Stat Predictions

    Games 135
    HRs I hate to do this but I will say 8
    AVG. I think he gives it everything he has this year like we have never seen and gets 301.
    RBIs 71
    Still has a good amount of walks due to the work he put in for hitting
    Doubles 31
    All in all it's a good season it's just the destruction of his body before our very eyes this season.

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    Re: 2020 Votto Stat Predictions

    I'll play ... but I'm not too optimistic:

    Games ... 125
    HR ... 10
    BB ... 60
    Strikeouts ... 130
    Average ... .275
    OB% ... .325
    Slug % ... .375
    OPS ... .700
    OPS+ ... 90-93
    WAR ... 1.0

    Unless Votto can prove that he can still carry a decent BABIP, or show an ability to still belt the ball over the outfield wall, the walks are going to drop like a lead balloon. He may have the best eye in baseball, but if he doesn't give pitchers a reason to pitch to him out of the strike zone, it won't do him any good.

    And it's not going to help his stats at all if he's still in mid-May trying to figure things out. The Reds need him to be better than 2018-2019 Joey Votto for the entire season ... not just the half of the season.
    “I think I throw the ball as hard as anyone. The ball just doesn't get there as fast.” — Eddie Bane

    “We know we're better than this ... but we can't prove it.” — Tony Gwynn

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    Re: 2020 Votto Stat Predictions

    .280/.370/.450 in 125 games

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    Re: 2020 Votto Stat Predictions

    Keep em coming

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    Re: 2020 Votto Stat Predictions

    I don't have any particular predictions about Joey, but I will say that if he has his usual horrible start to the season hitting sub .150 he may find himself on the outside looking in and a very expensive bench piece. His contract and salary makes him untradable and despite being arguably the best hitter of his generation it'll be untenable to keep him in the #2 hole all season if he's hitting below rookie ball level. I'd love to see him have his best season in the past ten years, but I fear that horse left the barn, broke its leg and got shot awhile back.

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    Re: 2020 Votto Stat Predictions

    140 games, .280/.400/.440, 2 WAR
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: 2020 Votto Stat Predictions

    162 Games .500/.500/.500 25 WAR
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    Re: 2020 Votto Stat Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    140 games, .280/.400/.440, 2 WAR
    Rick an optimist? Who hacked his account?

    All kidding aside, if he puts up an .840 OPS, he’ll likely blow past being a 2 win player, no?

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    Re: 2020 Votto Stat Predictions

    I suspect he rebounds-- a bit. He'll hit for some power, and his patience will return.

    But his days as the NL's best hitter are mostly behind him.

    .275/ .374/ .454 with 18 HR and 35 doubles.

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    Re: 2020 Votto Stat Predictions

    FWIW, his ISO the past two years have been .135 and .150. I'd be pretty surprised if he reached .150 again (provided he doesn't sell-out to hit for power).

    .265/.340/.395

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    Re: 2020 Votto Stat Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy Jones View Post
    Rick an optimist? Who hacked his account?

    All kidding aside, if he puts up an .840 OPS, he’ll likely blow past being a 2 win player, no?
    Not as a mediocre defender who doesn't run the bases well. I think he's something like a +15 run above average bat, -10 run defender (avg 1B), -5 run basebunner. That's +0 runs above average or roughly 2 WAR. If he plays 150+ games, that batting line would definitely produce more than a +15. So perhaps I'd drop the OBP 20 points or so. But the ballpark is right.

    It's hard to find a great comp, but perhaps Luke Voit or Shin Soo Choo.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: 2020 Votto Stat Predictions

    I think Votto will realize that he needs to get on base more this year with the power bats in this lineup. So an uptick in his OBP (.398) and slight downtick in his SLG (.405). ends up .803 OPS. Also ave of .282. Plus he's gonna sacrifice his body for the sake of the team and log a career high 14 HBP!!
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