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    Quote Originally Posted by North View Post
    Local tv station reports that NE has no interest in Dalton, that they will go with some 4th rounder.

    So it's a variation on the McCarron snafu. They will get zip for Dalton.

    Because they are not in the business of making other teams better.
    What confirmed offers did they have for Dalton?

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    The team allowed Dalton and his agent to find a trade, they didn't find one. Once Chicago went with Foles there was nothing there as the market is flooded with QB's this season. Cam is still out there, and Jameis too, bad year to be a free agent QB, I would hold and hope someone gets hurt.
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    Re: 2020 Cincinnati Bengals

    Quote Originally Posted by North View Post
    Local tv station reports that NE has no interest in Dalton, that they will go with some 4th rounder.

    So it's a variation on the McCarron snafu. They will get zip for Dalton.

    Because they are not in the business of making other teams better.
    I think this had more to do with the huge supply of QBs on the market this year. Jameis and Cam are still out there too. There were just more QBs available than teams that needed one. Maybe the Bengals could have done a better job, but it was the worst year to try to trade a mediocre QB.


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    Re: 2020 Cincinnati Bengals

    Quote Originally Posted by KoryMac5 View Post
    What confirmed offers did they have for Dalton?

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    The team allowed Dalton and his agent to find a trade, they didn't find one. Once Chicago went with Foles there was nothing there as the market is flooded with QB's this season. Cam is still out there, and Jameis too, bad year to be a free agent QB, I would hold and hope someone gets hurt.
    QB's will definitely get hurt. Training camp may not even begin until August or September. Sorry, Roger, but there will not be any preseason games. Kiss that revenue goodbye. Roger Goodell is on course to be the most hated man in the sports world. Government might need to step in and do his job for him and shut these teams down from getting together.
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    Re: 2020 Cincinnati Bengals

    Quote Originally Posted by KoryMac5 View Post
    What confirmed offers did they have for Dalton?

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    The team allowed Dalton and his agent to find a trade, they didn't find one. Once Chicago went with Foles there was nothing there as the market is flooded with QB's this season. Cam is still out there, and Jameis too, bad year to be a free agent QB, I would hold and hope someone gets hurt.
    Remember when they did nothing at the trade deadline because they "didn’t want to make other teams better"?

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    He said he was curious about the crowd but didn’t want to stay and talk. “I’m heading out,” he said. “This is a super-spreader event.”

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    Re: 2020 Cincinnati Bengals

    I speculated before the new league year began that Dalton's $17.7 million contract would be a hindrance for a team to take on just to have him as QB competition and not even necessarily the starter. That unfortunately looks to have been at least part of the problem - along with the Bengals overvaluing their own players, as usual.

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    Re: 2020 Cincinnati Bengals

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sheed View Post
    Remember when they did nothing at the trade deadline because they "didn’t want to make other teams better"?

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    They should have looked to deal him at the deadline...they waited and lost that gamble. I really don't think there was much of a market TBH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss-Hog View Post
    I speculated before the new league year began that Dalton's $17.7 million contract would be a hindrance for a team to take on just to have him as QB competition and not even necessarily the starter. That unfortunately looks to have been at least part of the problem - along with the Bengals overvaluing their own players, as usual.
    They are improving quickly at their evaluations of their own players. So many releases, even with dead money that was like a silver bullet to the Bengals, shows they are getting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    They are improving quickly at their evaluations of their own players. So many releases, even with dead money that was like a silver bullet to the Bengals, shows they are getting it.
    I noticed the same thing.

    It has to be the Zac Attack factor, because it sure as heck isn't the Katie/Troy factor.
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    Re: 2020 Cincinnati Bengals

    Quote Originally Posted by KoryMac5 View Post
    What confirmed offers did they have for Dalton?

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    The team allowed Dalton and his agent to find a trade, they didn't find one. Once Chicago went with Foles there was nothing there as the market is flooded with QB's this season. Cam is still out there, and Jameis too, bad year to be a free agent QB, I would hold and hope someone gets hurt.
    How do we know we had 0 offers when our leadership had no service in the Alps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    How do we know we had 0 offers when our leadership had no service in the Alps?
    That was tongue-in-cheek on my part. I was connecting the dots somewhat with two things that were happening at that time.

    1. The "We're not in the business of making other teams better" horse poop.
    and
    2. Katie Bug and Troy on vacation during the trade deadline.

    Both of those things, as a fan, pissed me off. But I mean, who knows... maybe they were making calls, wheeling and dealing, but there were no takers at any price. I kind of doubt it though. Because of point #1.

    And now look at them. The music has stopped, and they are without a chair. Again. And it's most likely the same reason. They come to the table asking for the moon and stars, don't budge an inch, and then nothing happens.

    So they're playing this poker game with the Pats and Jags now, except the Bengals have a 7-2 off suit here. They might as well hold on to Dalton now, hope that Dalton looks good during preseason, and hope that some QB gets injured.
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    Re: 2020 Cincinnati Bengals

    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Gack View Post
    How do we know we had 0 offers when our leadership had no service in the Alps?
    I agree they should have listened to offers for Dalton at the deadline...or maybe Dalton is just above average and didn't solicit anything substantial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoryMac5 View Post
    I agree they should have listened to offers for Dalton at the deadline...or maybe Dalton is just above average and didn't solicit anything substantial.
    Like Joe Flacco, Dalton showed that he was absolutely horrible under pressure. Clean pocket, sure, but pressure, and he was having his worst year career-wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    Like Joe Flacco, Dalton showed that he was absolutely horrible under pressure. Clean pocket, sure, but pressure, and he was having his worst year career-wise.
    This. Plus the 17 million price tag.

    If he's released, I see him in the 4 to 5 million range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sheed View Post
    This. Plus the 17 million price tag.

    If he's released, I see him in the 4 to 5 million range.
    Yep. He and Flacco have about the same value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    Yep. He and Flacco have about the same value.
    Which is crazy because I would take Dalton over Flacco in a heartbeat.

    Dalton, with the right supporting cast, can take you to the playoffs. Maybe all the way. He just can't get pressured, or he folds. Flacco looks like poop now even with a clean pocket.
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