Oh for godssake, Burrow and Dalton both had literally the same amount of time from snap to throw last year - Burrow's release is every bit as quick as Andy's. You all just make **** up sometimes.Originally Posted by Kingspoint
Oh for godssake, Burrow and Dalton both had literally the same amount of time from snap to throw last year - Burrow's release is every bit as quick as Andy's. You all just make **** up sometimes.
Well, that's what those words mean. He was here. If they don't keep him, he will have been lost/subtracted. I headed out the door today with two shoes on my feet. If I don't return with them, I have lost them. If I do return with them, I haven't added them. ---M2
Here is a recommendation...
So this is first time I've felt a bit of worry, figure I should admit it:
https://twitter.com/pauldehnerjr/sta...71435579334657
Reedy responding to this:Man, we have a long way to go until this all plays out but hard not to connect the dots on what Carson said this week, Jordan Palmer taking over training Joe Burrow and this answer to the question of going at the top of the draft.
Maybe I'm just looking too hard but ...
https://twitter.com/andrewperloff/st...68859874086913
Palmer family still feeling wronged here and trying to get some payback?"You want to go No. 1. But you also want to go to a great organization that is committed to winning. Committed to winning Super Bowls." - Joe Burrow on @dpshow
I still think they take Burrow and it's fine, I'm just saying this isn't outstanding.
Last edited by Redsfaithful; 01-31-2020 at 11:25 AM.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
he's good friends with Sam Hubbard and Sam is one of the most respected guys in the locker room. I think it's fine, probably letting the org know they need to invest around him as well.
The television crews left and about 10 reporters remained in the room. That's when Price took his turn doing the talking.
What followed was a five-minute, 34-second expletive-filled tirade. The final tally was 77 uses of the "F" word or a variant and 11 uses of a vulgar term for feces (two bovine, one equine).
Redsfaithful (01-31-2020)
My hope is he will take Carson's experience to better and more effectively leverage his position with the team to challenge the ownership.
The sad thing is, all of this just hurts the fans who have already been abused for decades. But who knows, maybe Burrow sees it all and is formulating some sort of plan. His dad is sharp and he's dealing with people around the team already, so fingers crossed. This could be a turning point for the team.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
And the hits keep coming...
Tua Tagovailoa's agent on his client going No. 1: 'I’m hoping Cincy falls in love with Joe Burrow'
KYLE BROWN | CINCINNATI ENQUIRER
Updated 15 hours ago
“You want to make sure that your client ends up with a good organization....I’m hoping Cincy falls in love with Joe Burrow," the account tweeted out."
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/spo...oa/2859093001/
The only danger here is if Burrow somehow comes to understand about Mike Brown, what every long time Bengals QB comes to understand about Mike Brown.
(That 'winning' is a distant 3rd on his priority list)
If Burrow and/or Burrow's dad puts 2 and 2 together there, and does so before the draft, it could get ugly.
"Lemonade requires a significant amount of sugar. Otherwise, you've just made lemon juice."
No question Tua would refuse to play for the Bengals, I've said that all along. He'd find a way out, even if it meant going back for his Senior Year, or sitting out a year.
The bigger concern is if that same lightbulb goes on over Joe Burrow's head.
"Lemonade requires a significant amount of sugar. Otherwise, you've just made lemon juice."
Yes, because the Dolphins have been a paragon of excellence for the last 20 years... No doubt the Bengals are a bad organization, but most of the teams picking in the top 10 haven't come even close to the success the Bengals have had the last 11 years. Agents don't like the Bengals because they're cheap, and that makes sense. But in terms of chances of playing for a winner, the Bengals aren't a bad bet for teams in the top 10.
Flores looks like a good coach, so maybe he flips the script. But even though he spends money, Stephen Ross has done a far worse job of constructing a football team than Mike Brown.
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All we have here is 1 crap team + 1 crap team = 2 crap teams.
So much misinformation here... my goodness.
Agents don't dislike Mike Brown because he's cheap. The Bengals spend as much as any other team does, in regard to cap money. But "why" do the Bengals spend as much as every other team, in regard to cap money? That's the real question. And the answer is, because they have to.
The NFL has a rule now, where every team is required to spend up to a certain percentage of the salary cap. The next question you should be asking yourself is, why would the NFL need to make such a rule? Don't teams want to spend as close to the cap as possible? And the answer is, the rule was made because of Mike Brown.
Back in the 1990s, Mike Brown was tanking. But not for the reason most teams tank. He was pocketing money he should have been spending on players, so he could save up to buy the team outright. Which he did. So the NFL made a rule requiring scammers like Mike Brown to spend to the cap. Which he does.
Now here's where Mike Brown's cheapness really handicaps his own franchise. Non-Cap related expenditures. Scouts, stadium amenities. Towels, equipment, coaches, decorations, you name it. All the absolute bare minimum.
So to get back to why agents don't like Mike Brown, the real reason is, anyone who plays for the Bengals, ends up getting devalued, sometimes even injured, due to the organization's self-imposed handicaps in regard to non-cap related expenditures.
It's why stumbling backwards into the playoffs is pretty much the high water mark for the Bengals. It's why go-with-the-flow guys like Palmer have so much venom, even now, toward Mike Brown. It's why Tua would refuse to play here if drafted. It's why Corey Dillon threw his pads and uniform into the stands after his last game as a Bengal. It's why Dalton can't wait to get released. And it's why AJ Green didn't play a down this season. All of it.
And like I said, Bengals fans better hope Burrow doesn't connect the dots here too. Otherwise, expect an Eli Manning draft situation.
But when people say that Mike Brown is or is not "cheap" based on what he spends on player contracts, I have to shake my head, because that's not even close to how things really are.
Last edited by Bob Sheed; 01-31-2020 at 12:21 PM.
"Lemonade requires a significant amount of sugar. Otherwise, you've just made lemon juice."
Only in Dan Patrick’s wet dreams does Burrow pass on millions of dollars and refuse to play for a year so Patrick can have content.
Well, that's what those words mean. He was here. If they don't keep him, he will have been lost/subtracted. I headed out the door today with two shoes on my feet. If I don't return with them, I have lost them. If I do return with them, I haven't added them. ---M2
You should understand better than most, how plausible that scenario actually is, and why.
"Lemonade requires a significant amount of sugar. Otherwise, you've just made lemon juice."
Play for 1 crap team in Ohio...or play for 1 crap team in Florida...I'll take Ohio...said no one ever!
A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor!
North (01-31-2020)
the kid from Ohio might want to come back home instead of live in hurricane central for the first 5 years of his career.
The television crews left and about 10 reporters remained in the room. That's when Price took his turn doing the talking.
What followed was a five-minute, 34-second expletive-filled tirade. The final tally was 77 uses of the "F" word or a variant and 11 uses of a vulgar term for feces (two bovine, one equine).
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